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Sujet : Kill a scion

  1. #31
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Barde Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par DPZ2 Voir le message
    I suggested that they kill off Sylvanus and Thrall, but nobody at Activision-Blizzard would take my calls after that.

    Given that attitude, why should one of the Scions die?
    It's just weird to have a group of people...talented or not...and have them go into battle after battle with huge stakes on the line and not as much suffer one casualty. It really takes the danger out if you know for a fact everyone is coming out better than when they went in.
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  2. #32
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Citation Envoyé par Alexandre_Noireau Voir le message
    i would love a dark twist to all this positivity themed expansion.
    I can't be the only one thinking that this expansion's 'good vibes' is obviously going away through the MSQ development. It reminds me a lot of WoW's Mists of Pandaria, how it was perceived at first and how it turned out.
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  3. #33
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Chevalier noir Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Hurlstone Voir le message
    I never understand why people seem to be out for blood regarding the Scions. Sure, killing off a character can be good for dramatic reasons, but it can also be lazy and forced. I for one liked that Endwalker ended on a positive note regarding our main cast, its a story about hope after all, and would rather they get retired then knocked off. That way they can come back if needed, there are still arcs and stories they can tell.
    People have explained to you multiple times yet you still don’t understand? At this point it’s on you.
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  4. #34
    Player Avatar de AwesomeJr44
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Chevalier noir Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Kozh Voir le message
    People have explained to you multiple times yet you still don’t understand? At this point it’s on you.
    Sometimes I wonder if certain posters have their minds wiped after having things explained to them, and that's why they never remember what was said last time.
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  5. #35
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    Mage blanc Lv 100
    Just my two cents, but... the thing about killing a character in fiction is, if you're going to do it properly, their death has to serve a narrative purpose. It should change the circumstances of the story, or trigger a new arc, or spark a dramatic change in another character or something. If it's just done for the sake of "drama" or a "dark" moment, it's kind of meaningless. "This character has nothing to do" is not a reason to kill them, it's a reason for them to simply step away from the spotlight for a while.

    Citation Envoyé par VictorSpoils Voir le message
    One of the twins, since Y'shtola won't stay down. Maybe Alphinaud so Alisaie has to lament him.
    OMG, that would be the most heartbreaking thing of all. You kill one, you have basically killed the other because they will just be emotionally dead.

    Citation Envoyé par Jeeqbit Voir le message
    I just don't see Zero... living it up on this island. Either we're probably leaving her behind somewhere or she's gonna be killed.
    I'm honestly worried they're going to kill her off, because A) I feel like she could really become interesting as she develops and tries to build a new life, B) killing off a character that quickly is a cheap move because they're "disposable," and C) it's also lame and predictable considering they already used that trick in ARR.

    Citation Envoyé par Zanarkand-Ronso Voir le message
    Dont know if she is considered a Scion, but Kill off Zero.
    She looks cool, but I still have No Attachment towards her, and if this is her Entire Personality, then Im good seeing her gone. Only way to make me care about her at this point is to go Full Minfillia --> Ryne and make her a different person with a Real Personality and maybe an actual Name.

    A new outfit with some color would be nice to, even our Boy Estinien as dry as he is has a Personality and some Color.
    That's actually EXACTLY what I want for Zero, to have a big turnaround and a new identity, complete with a new outfit and an REAL name. I don't have a problem with there not being much to her right now, because she's basically not even "alive" yet. She has to be reborn, but that can't happen overnight. It's going to have to happen gradually, although there can be some big dramatic moments that push her forward. Like you said, look at how Estinien has turned out, how his friendship with Alphinaud has developed. It's awesome! Zero should a chance to do something like that too, she could become an amazing character.

    Citation Envoyé par MsQi Voir le message
    Can I sacrifice Thancred to bring back Papalymo?
    You know, I was never a huge fan of Papalymo but in retrospect I would have liked to see his take on events and see how he could have contributed to the story in all the content he missed out on. I guess he and Y'shtola would sort of be tripping over each other for relevance as the "stoic scholar of the arcane," but maybe that could have played into a friendly rivalry or something.

    Citation Envoyé par MoofiaBossVal Voir le message
    Kill G'raha.
    Don't you dare touch my burger boi!
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  6. #36
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Midgardsormr
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    Danseur Lv 80
    The moment they fully replace the Scions will be the moment yall complain about the new characters being bad. Same for the folks asking for a story break and a full new adventure. SE listened and is giving us DT yet yall are already mad after a teaser trailer...this crap is old.
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  7. #37
    Player Avatar de RitsukoSonoda
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    Kugane (No that red crayon is totally legitimate) >.>
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Toyota beat you do it. Scion brand has been gone a few years... >.>
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  8. #38
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    Discount Hrothgar
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    Zalera
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    Botaniste Lv 90
    YoshiP has heard your request and will be killing off your Adventurer Squadron. It's even more dramatic, because you're so much more invested in them.
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  9. #39
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    Glorious Swan
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    Sagittarius
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    Guerrier Lv 70
    I'm not sure they'll ever kill any of the "main" group now, too many people would get upset/annoyed.
    (1)
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  10. #40
    Player Avatar de Hurlstone
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Reimmi Voir le message
    The problem is baiting death constantly
    you can keep teh cast alive forever whatever but if you keep baiting their deaths over and over it gets really annoying
    Oh with this I 100% agree. The faux deaths at the end of Endwalker where by far my least favorite aspect of the story, and frankly whilst I do love ya Y'shtola but if she throws herself into the lifestream again for the third time I am gonna just leave her there.

    Citation Envoyé par Kozh Voir le message
    People have explained to you multiple times yet you still don’t understand? At this point it’s on you.
    Hmm, apologies, mayhap my choice of words where wrong. Better perhaps to just say I disagree with the conclusions people come up with then haha.
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