Devs Please Be Careful Not To Disrespect Real Native Cultures In The New World

[WiccaP]

Can we please remember, that the game is made by a Japanese company. While it is a global game, Japan does not have the same history and social issues with colonization and racism that the western world has. And we shouldn't solely look at it through our own biases.
Also, one of the major themes of the game has always been anti-colonialism. The entire Empire is an alagory to colonization, and that the alliance is made up of different cultures and people coming together and working toward a common goal.
We've seen like 2 minutes of the area and cultures. So before we start screaming about this or that. Maybe give them a chance to tell a story, which is something theyve always done well. Yes there are going to be things that we dislike or view as misrepresented, but that's part of representation. The good the bad and the ugly. We have to remember that this is a fantasy game that is taking inspiration from places and people of our own world, not meant as a complete and total real world truth. Some people in marginalized communities are going to hate and be offended and some are not. Minorities are not monoliths and to try and make them one is just as dangerous.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

We even stopped calling them "Beast" Tribes.
As a South American im glad about the feel of the Andine areas, Machu Pichu looks good.

What i actually would demand of the devs is another thing.
S O U T H A M E R I C A N D A T A C E N T E R S

I don't like that the new continent is basically south america and we don't have datacenters, really hard to always be depending on VPNs and always playing above +150ms.

[Zsolen]

We even stopped calling them "Beast" Tribes.
As a South American im glad about the feel of the Andine areas, Machu Pichu looks good.

What i actually would demand of the devs is another thing.
S O U T H A M E R I C A N D A T A C E N T E R S

I don't like that the new continent is basically south america and we don't have datacenters, really hard to always be depending on VPNs and always playing above +150ms.

With how the data center in Meracydia is going, it will likely be a while.

Because Catholics and Christian people in general are used to be portrayed in many different ways in games and movies. I'm a Catholic and had absolutely no problem with Heavensward because it's a work of fiction and SE didn't even try to represent my religion, they just used some elements to portray their vision of "holy war" in a fantasy game. I just suppose we have a bit thicker skin since religious people are offended all the time in the modern world.

Meanwhile many minorities are like "you have to portray us only in a 100% positive way or we will punish you and cancel you, you will regret it for the rest of your life!!!". It's so tiresome.

Yep. Square tends to put the Catholic Church in a bad light. I never took it seriously, and HW is even my favorite expansion.

[Payadopa]

I wonder how certain Twitter personalities survive real life without exploding the second they step outside. lol

[Avatre]

I say this thread is cursed. I was going through it, and when I got to page 6 Chrome gave me the popup for translating from French to English. I've never had it set for anything BUT English. Guess it's a sign not to go into Damian's threads?

[Elissar]

You didn't came to Brazil, Brazil will go into your game. There is no escape, gringo. /s

Seriously, they won't "disrespect" our cultures more than people that pretend to care.
The world that people from twitter live is insane: if you don't represent, you don't care. If you represent, you disrespect. I call it excessive free time or super man syndrome...just a bunch of people trying to make themselves guardians of human history and will.

Every culture has their strengths and weakness. I hope they show and explore it like any other.


Ascians: scientific arrogance
Yanxia: excessive servitude
Kugane: allow mafia to run free and parallel military force to command the city
Ishgard: religious fanaticism
Au Ras from the steppe: rejection of technology or like Cirina say "man of steel", making them weak versus the empire.
Gridania: close borders
Ul'dah: traders can rule more than the Sultana herself, a critic to greedy.

i can mention it all day.

[Axxion]

sometimes i wish people stop trying to social justice points in a video game. This is like the second time you trying to make something big for no reason.

[Cach]

What i actually would demand of the devs is another thing.
S O U T H A M E R I C A N D A T A C E N T E R S

This please, not playing on "Connection = poor" would be awesome. I know its a long shot, given all hardware troubles, but not harm in asking.

As for this thread topic... Terminally online delusional people... don't care much for them, that's all what I'll say.

[AlexiaD]

This please, not playing on "Connection = poor" would be awesome. I know its a long shot, given all hardware troubles, but not harm in asking.

As for this thread topic... Terminally online delusional people... don't care much for them, that's all what I'll say.

South american servers would basically be a double of materia, empty worlds with barely anyone on them, no cross DC travel because of "limitations" too, it'd basically be a wasteland from day 1, so no, no point.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

There is no issue giving an under represented culture a moment via high fantasy, but if you all remember the in game Native American headdress controversy, which actually did upset people of specific communities, this expansion has to tread carefully.

Again, I think it’s really cool that they are doing this, but one misstep, and the media will never let it down. Especially after the comments about FFXVI being supposedly racist. Division III needs to be careful with racial comments, and how they represent cultures from now on.

I hope that the players, especially here in North America are not shy to mention if the dev team messes up on any of the representation. They need to hear it from us first. I do not believe the devs are intentionally racist, or harmful to any group of people. Yoshi P and his team are much more progressive than the majority of Japan. I do think they will listen to us if such a misstep happens. There have been numerous missteps that got fixed.

oh no a fantasy world and we don't want to worry about misrepresentation a fake culture. This is what is wrong with society everyone has seems to have their feelings hurt. Good lord I hope in 50 years people have thick skin again and not sensitive or better yet know the difference between real world and video games