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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    It could be a pretty straightforward explanation that our fight with Zenos actually drained some degree of our lifeforce / power level / whatever and we're weakened from what we were.
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    Gullis Hil
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
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  3. #13
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    This is the best solution yet and if they don’t use it, it’s a horrible missed opportunity.
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  4. #14
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    We'll give a large portion of our light aspect aether to stop Zeromus. That will sap our strength and render us so helpless that we need two small children to guard us on our trip abroad.
    Why do I feel this will be exactly how it goes.
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    Miya Malaguld
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    Kujata
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Considering how relaxed Derplander looked when fighting that monster in trailer, I say, our WoL will just be finding the dawntrail enemies pretty weak in the story at least.

    Of course gameplay and story do need some separation or else Dawntrail enemies have to be below lvl 90.
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  6. #16
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    A question i asked myself for a while now is how SE will introduce a new threat to us players. Or a reason why all of the sudden the new enemies and bosses are stronger than the end of the universe and existence itself.

    We fought dragons, primals, gods, ancients and literally the end itself. So my question is, what big bad evil will come next? How will SE make it believable that after defeating Meteion we struggle again with some random trial and dungeon bosses?
    How do great boxers and MMA fighters get defeated after a long winning streak?

    What about when people get old and lose a step?

    That's really where we're at. It's like Zenos said. Who will be the one to finally...
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  7. #17
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    A question i asked myself for a while now is how SE will introduce a new threat to us players. Or a reason why all of the sudden the new enemies and bosses are stronger than the end of the universe and existence itself.

    We fought dragons, primals, gods, ancients and literally the end itself. So my question is, what big bad evil will come next? How will SE make it believable that after defeating Meteion we struggle again with some random trial and dungeon bosses?
    When you see G'Raha fatter than Dulia-Chai (he's eating burgers in the trailer too) that will fade into the background.

    WoL: "strange, the armor I wore in HW is tight in my belly and sides! What do you think G'Raha Tia?


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    I have 10,000 needles,
    I'm not a weaver,
    and I'm not scared to use them.

  8. #18
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    Raven Lordes
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Yes I'm so over the whole children bossing and somehow someway managed to keep up with WoL power level nothing make sense anymore
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  9. #19
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    When you think about it. Nothing we have done that’s noteworthy we have done alone. Gaius van baelsar? Took 8 (now 4) of us at level 50 to defeat him. Nidhogg, 8 again at level 60, zenos, we went against him alone at 60 and got thrashed, we then went off and trained up to level 70 and still only beat him with a party of 4. Shadowbringers we get forced to retreat by Ran’jit at low 70’s when we take him on alone and all our noteworthy victories, again of course, parties of 4-8.

    Basically what I’m getting at is, on our own we’re actually kind of weak. Any time they want to introduce a serious threat they have us fight them alone and usually unprepared. Sure we defeated meteion… with 7 helpers while riding shinryu… But while we’re out napping on the beach? Krillin could throw a rock at our head and it would hurt!

    The only real issue I see is Azem’s Crystal letting us summon help at any time, making it pretty much impossible for a serious threat to catch us off guard and alone. So unless we lose/give up that power somehow, it’s going to be difficult to introduce threats that way going forward unless they are some world ending threat we need to come up with a plan for.
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  10. #20
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm expecting they'll just resort to the tried and true trope of "strong as the plot demands" to maintain narrative tension.
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