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    The Power Progression in Dawntrail

    A question i asked myself for a while now is how SE will introduce a new threat to us players. Or a reason why all of the sudden the new enemies and bosses are stronger than the end of the universe and existence itself.

    We fought dragons, primals, gods, ancients and literally the end itself. So my question is, what big bad evil will come next? How will SE make it believable that after defeating Meteion we struggle again with some random trial and dungeon bosses?
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    We took a break on Island sanctuary and our power level decreased from not doing anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    We took a break on Island sanctuary and our power level decreased from not doing anything.
    I beg your pardon, you did maybe nothing but i slaved myself away for Tataru and her ingenious evil dunesfolk plan to use the WoL for her personal gains. She just wants to create a trading empire to rival Lolorito and we Warriors of Light pay the price for it!
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    They're not going to.

    The WoL gets one-upped by chumps during the main and sidequests all the time. You're as powerful as the story needs you to be. If you try to apply logic to it, it gets worse when you consider the New World is full of Lv90+ creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    They're not going to.

    The WoL gets one-upped by chumps during the main and sidequests all the time. You're as powerful as the story needs you to be. If you try to apply logic to it, it gets worse when you consider the New World is full of Lv90+ creatures.
    For most of the expansions it worked tho. Maybe not for the mobs but for the boss progression. In ARR we were a normal adventurer, in HW we lost Hydaelyns gifts cause of Midgardsomr, in Stormblood the whole thing was about how we can't win a war just alone no matter how powerful we are, ShB we got thrown into a new world and pumped full of light until we broke, EW well had the end of the universe and despair itself. So up until EW there was some sort of not so steady threat progression, especially when it came to the story bosses of the expansions.

    But i can't really see that in the future, it makes no sense why anything should be more powerful than us by now. Was weird alone that after defeating nidhogg, zodiark etc. now Zeromus which is just dragon+zodiark shard is more powerful than us.

    But yeah, maybe it is wrong to try to apply logic to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    in Stormblood the whole thing was about how we can't win a war just alone no matter how powerful we are,.
    Which will likely be the case here. Sure we could murderhobo our way through everything, but that'll just cause more problems. So we'll just spend most of the expansion, after figuring out who the main enemy is, convincing the people that said enemy needs a good murdering before we do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus View Post
    When you see G'Raha fatter than Dulia-Chai (he's eating burgers in the trailer too) that will fade into the background.

    WoL: "strange, the armor I wore in HW is tight in my belly and sides! What do you think G'Raha Tia?
    In a world where food literally converts into aether for spellcasting, dieting must not be much of a thing.

    They actually make a specific point in the aftermath of 5.3 that casting spells needs to be recharged by eating food (at least when you don't have a giant aether battery providing power instead).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    In a world where food literally converts into aether for spellcasting, dieting must not be much of a thing.

    They actually make a specific point in the aftermath of 5.3 that casting spells needs to be recharged by eating food (at least when you don't have a giant aether battery providing power instead).
    We eat aether, like Zero did with the apple, and more. The problem of our sides is the "more".
    If we were only aether, what the point of bury a corpse (why are there corpses)? Or why did the scions need their bodies back?
    We have "a physical soul", this soul need aether and we are able to convert soul in magic, but the body need something else, for example archon bread XD
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    I have 10,000 needles,
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    We'll give a large portion of our light aspect aether to stop Zeromus. That will sap our strength and render us so helpless that we need two small children to guard us on our trip abroad.
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    Last edited by Sir_Tonberry; 07-29-2023 at 04:32 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    We'll give a large portion of our light aspect aether to stop Zeromus. That will sap our strength and render us so helpless that we need two small children to guard us on our trip abroad.
    Why do I feel this will be exactly how it goes.
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