No exploratory content

[Fortecael]

The Exploratory content was Island Sanctuary and any fight related fight/lore was Variant & Criterion Dungeon they just aren't related to the relic.

This must be the worst cope I've ever seen...

[Koros]

Yoshida has disclosed in a Famitsu interview that they are planning a new type of battle content (probably) for 7.X, as well as stating that the next iteration of exploratory content is being discussed.

Source: https://www.famitsu.com/news/202307/30311422.html

They always hype up new features. I still remember how they hyped up Diadem, but it just remained trash.

[Lindaru]

I didn't like Eureka nor Bozja that much anyway. Well, BA was the best over 24man "raid" I've experienced in this game next to Pre-"Nerf" Orbonne Monastery.
I do think Varient Dungeons are really bad reward wise and 12 runs for the mount is really dull and boring.

[Wilford111]

This must be the worst cope I've ever seen...

For all we know this was the dev's logic behind it.
I'm getting so sick of the word "cope"

[TheNight]

You literally only ever complain about this game and never have any valid criticism. You are no better than the Titan trolls.

Perhaps you should stop harassing people?

[Renathras]

This must be the worst cope I've ever seen...

I mean, I think he's correction that the RESOURCES that would have gone to Exploration Zones were instead consumed on IS and V&C. Obviously neither one scratches the same itch (V&C isn't drop-in/out content and has limited exploration and story which are all self-contained and not continuous across them; IS has no combat and no shared progress with other players), so they aren't an adequate substitute. But if he just means Dev resources, he's probably right.

Ngl, despite that many people cry 'they're troll(s)!!', these 'trolls' actually instigated many discussion nowadays than real people lol.

I think that may be more due to them just posting such a high volume of threads (during the height of Fanfest, the front page was full of majority posts started by the usual suspects; they just started so many threads that SOME of them generated discussion, but they were also drowning out other people's threads trying to start discussion, so it's a mixed bag...)

Yoshida has disclosed in a Famitsu interview that they are planning a new type of battle content (probably) for 7.X, as well as stating that the next iteration of exploratory content is being discussed.

Yeah, I'd really like to see an official translation of this, just to make sure the words are saying what people are thinking they're saying. Trust but verify and all that.

Those on the forums who are tripping themselves defending V&C might want to look at the Famitsu interview, because it looks like Yoshida would disagree with you that the game is "fine as-is". He wants to improve it (as us naysayers do), much to your chagrin.

There are two classes of people who make negative posts about the game.

One is people who genuinely still like the game and don't hate it, who raise valid points and offer criticism of the game with idea and suggestions for improvements, who don't attack other people who enjoy the game as it is, and so on.

The other is people who lash out at the game, flailing for anything to say negative about it, constantly badmouth it, and attack anyone who doesn't share their disdain for it, often while encouraging people to quit or permanently leave it to play other MMOs (as opposed to taking a break), and are more critical of other posters who aren't negative like they are than even of the game.

If you're in the first camp, you're fine. Just don't move into the second camp.

Yoshi P is saying he wants to improve it, not that he thinks it is currently garbage and should be shut down. That's a wide gulf.

[AwesomeJr44]

There are two classes of people who make negative posts about the game.

One is people who genuinely still like the game and don't hate it, who raise valid points and offer criticism of the game with idea and suggestions for improvements, who don't attack other people who enjoy the game as it is, and so on.

The other is people who lash out at the game, flailing for anything to say negative about it, constantly badmouth it, and attack anyone who doesn't share their disdain for it, often while encouraging people to quit or permanently leave it to play other MMOs (as opposed to taking a break), and are more critical of other posters who aren't negative like they are than even of the game.

If you're in the first camp, you're fine. Just don't move into the second camp.

Yoshi P is saying he wants to improve it, not that he thinks it is currently garbage and should be shut down. That's a wide gulf.

"There are two classes of people who make negative posts about the game.

The people I agree with.

And the people I disagree with.

If you're in the first camp, you're fine. Just don't move into the second camp."

I think part of that might be that while I do agree with you on points often, your presentation is rather vehement and confrontational.

[Renathras]

"There are two classes of people who make negative posts about the game.

The people I agree with.

And the people I disagree with.

If you're in the first camp, you're fine. Just don't move into the second camp."

Oh hey, you again. I guess you're done agreeing with me on topics (I think you agreed with me on two) and are back to the trolling.

I don't agree with all the people that make respectful and well argued critiques while not attacking other players. I still see them as a good thing and doing it right.

There's no way to agree with someone who is being a jerk and not making any arguments, instead just lashing out at people and insulting people.

So no, it's not a matter of agreement or disagreement. I've seen some valid complaints and even upvoted people who I disagreed with but who were being respectful and making good arguments. From time to time, really good arguments about problems can change my mind on them, too.

In short:

Stop trolling.

[Stormpeaks]

Oh hey, you again. I guess you're done agreeing with me on topics (I think you agreed with me on two) and are back to the trolling.

I don't agree with all the people that make respectful and well argued critiques while not attacking other players. I still see them as a good thing and doing it right.

There's no way to agree with someone who is being a jerk and not making any arguments, instead just lashing out at people and insulting people.

So no, it's not a matter of agreement or disagreement. I've seen some valid complaints and even upvoted people who I disagreed with but who were being respectful and making good arguments. From time to time, really good arguments about problems can change my mind on them, too.

In short:

Stop trolling.

"you agreed with me in 2 threads so I liked you, now you stopped agreeing so you're a troll"

[Supersnow845]

Rerathros’s definition of “echo chamber” at this point is “the person didn’t agree with me so they are in the echo chamber and I’m enlightened”