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  1. #61
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    I like Alisaie.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I'll explain it for you, because you seem to have trouble grasping concepts like this often enough so I believe your confusion and sense of loss is legitimate now.

    Valkyrie_Lenneth tried to deflect a complaint that originated from an opinion from AlexiaD by saying that AlexiaD spends their time hanging out at venues and that this development should not matter to them. This statement implies that AlexiaD only hangs out at venues and does not do anything else in Final Fantasy XIV, and it is also implies that Valkyrie_Lenneth believes that they should not voice their opinion about something that Valkyrie_Lenneth was not aware of them having any interest in, also implying that Valkyrie_Lenneth believes that no one should have an opinion about anything when Valkyrie_Lenneth is not aware of their interest in that topic.

    Valkyrie_Lenneth later responded to AlexiaD's response to say that Valkyrie_Lenneth is not into PVP so Valkyrie_Lenneth would not comment on PVP and would just ignore it. However that implies that Valkyrie_Lenneth then believes that content related to AlexiaD's complaint would be something that could just be ignored, and this also implies that Valkyrie_Lenneth believes that AlexiaD does not like the MSQ or would ignore the MSQ, in which the Scions, including Alisaie and Alphinaud, will appear.

    Thus, AlexiaD responded as AlexiaD did, and rightfully so, because Valkyrie_Lenneth's stance is one that implies that AlexiaD should exclude herself from a conversation and possibly from content based upon Valkyrie_Lenneth's perception of AlexiaD's interests.


    To summarize, assumptions made an ass out of Valkyrie_Lenneth (as they do with all), and AlexiaD did not appreciate the implications or the assumptions made.

    Is that sufficient?



    On topic, I... kinda really wish we had the scions just make guest cameos here and there, rather than be involved in the mSQ anymore. Maybe a letter or call or something, here and there? Some advice, maybe?
    We need new blood.
    I'm actually ok with Alisaie tagging along, because that just means something's going to potentially get murderated, and that's always fun, but Alphinaud is like bringing your 5 year old cousin with you when you go out with your friends to have some fun at a local arcade.
    I guess I'm just not, personally, looking forward to being everyone's attack dog, being told what to do by the other Scions, and having things explained to me like I'm the target audience of Dora the Explorer when I already understand the situation, just so fans can have more CG renderings of Graha eating food.



    To be fair, all they do is complain about anything and everything and insult people, and then tell them housing is fine if they have complaints about the system. So it wasn't really that off the mark.



    If you have any issues with housing and how small groups used multiple account to buy up whole wards, too bad so sad.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    To be fair, all they do is complain about anything and everything and insult people, and then tell them housing is fine if they have complaints about the system. So it wasn't really that off the mark.



    If you have any issues with housing and how small groups used multiple account to buy up whole wards, too bad so sad.
    Is it agaisnt ToS ? Nope

    Then it is what it is.

    As for complain about anything and everything, idk what you're talking about but sure buddy

    If people want houses on NA, they have Dynamis, and for EU, Alpha,Raiden,Phantom and Sagi are wide open.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I'll explain it for you, because you seem to have trouble grasping concepts like this often enough so I believe your confusion and sense of loss is legitimate now.

    Valkyrie_Lenneth tried to deflect a complaint that originated from an opinion from AlexiaD by saying that AlexiaD spends their time hanging out at venues and that this development should not matter to them. This statement implies that AlexiaD only hangs out at venues and does not do anything else in Final Fantasy XIV, and it is also implies that Valkyrie_Lenneth believes that they should not voice their opinion about something that Valkyrie_Lenneth was not aware of them having any interest in, also implying that Valkyrie_Lenneth believes that no one should have an opinion about anything when Valkyrie_Lenneth is not aware of their interest in that topic.

    Valkyrie_Lenneth later responded to AlexiaD's response to say that Valkyrie_Lenneth is not into PVP so Valkyrie_Lenneth would not comment on PVP and would just ignore it. However that implies that Valkyrie_Lenneth then believes that content related to AlexiaD's complaint would be something that could just be ignored, and this also implies that Valkyrie_Lenneth believes that AlexiaD does not like the MSQ or would ignore the MSQ, in which the Scions, including Alisaie and Alphinaud, will appear.

    Thus, AlexiaD responded as AlexiaD did, and rightfully so, because Valkyrie_Lenneth's stance is one that implies that AlexiaD should exclude herself from a conversation and possibly from content based upon Valkyrie_Lenneth's perception of AlexiaD's interests.


    To summarize, assumptions made an ass out of Valkyrie_Lenneth (as they do with all), and AlexiaD did not appreciate the implications or the assumptions made.

    Is that sufficient?
    oh my god, WHY IS IT SO HARD for the poster to ever give a basic explanation when one is clearly asked for. Everytime, somebody else has to come to their rescue and do, what the OP I was replying to, CANT do.
    This happens a good number of times as well, I usually just have my intelligence insulted, instead of just a basic explanation. But I guess thats just asking to much, somebody else has to do it for them.

    But, thank you, I appreciate THIS at least, where, even if I dont see it or believe it personally, YOU at least had the decency to just simply explain it to me. Instead of just Childishly Insulting me.
    At the very least I now have a better upstanding
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    oh my god, WHY IS IT SO HARD for the poster to ever give a basic explanation when one is clearly asked for.
    Because the information you wanted was readily available and incredibly obvious to anyone who bothered to read even one page before you butted in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    But Now I know with 100% certainty that your Alt is - AlexiaD
    Dude, you're upset that people are treating you like you're dumb, and yet you're only realizing that Alexa was her alt now? Stormpeaks has quite literally come out and said that Alexa is her alt multiple times. Not that it wasn't mega obvious anyways. Congratulations I guess.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 07-30-2023 at 11:02 AM. Reason: you apparently came into the thread earlier too, so even weirder that you didn't see it, changed post accordingly

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Because the information you wanted was readily available and incredibly obvious to anyone who bothered to read even one page before you came into the thread?
    Dude, you're upset that people are treating you like you're dumb, and yet you're only realizing that Alexa was her alt now? Stormpeaks has quite literally come out and said that Alexa is her alt multiple times. Not that it wasn't mega obvious anyways. Congratulations I guess.
    I am dumb, there are times I am slow, I self admitted that a few posts ago especially when I was asking for help to understand something I very clearly didnt understand.
    Im suppose to be the slow one here. lol
    So now that I said that out loud, Im sure Im going to hear about it from the usual people just like when I said I had Hyperglycemia.

    But moving on.
    When and Where? Since Im apparently the last one to know, its pretty obvious I didnt see it...whenever they posted that. I dont hardly interact with Stormpeaks, but Im just suppose to know something I probly didnt see. And people get all upset when assumptions and accusations are tossed around about posters probly being an Alt, and ya'll come in to Meme about it.
    But I guess this time it would have been ok. Lol

    The Conversation was on Page 5....the Front Page doesnt answer that conversation at all.
    So what information was I suppose to get?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Oh my. What an astute observation. I thank you for your service exposing the alt for what it is. No one could've guessed.
    Didnt have to guess, I was just literally Told.
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    Last edited by Zanarkand-Ronso; 07-30-2023 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    But Now I know with 100% certainty that your Alt is - AlexiaD
    Oh my. What an astute observation. I thank you for your service exposing the alt for what it is. No one could've guessed.
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  8. #68
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    I think we need a mission where Alphinaud has to wear red to disguise himself as Alisaie, or vice versa
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I am dumb, there are times I am slow,
    Ok, so if you yourself are saying that you are dumb and slow, then why would you be upset if other people are treating you as if you're dumb and slow? You asked a dumb question, and are insulted that others recognized it as such and refused to give you anything other than a dumb answer. I don't see how you can act like you're self aware but then also act insulted when other people look at you the same way you view yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    When and Where?
    Literally every AlexaD post ever posted has been excruciatingly obvious about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    But I guess this time it would have been ok. Lol
    Yes, because it's not a case of people being paranoid over shadowy boogiemen if the person themselves intentionally and frequently makes it quite obvious that they're using an alt to post more than the ridiculous limit on these forums allows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    The Conversation was on Page 5....the Front Page doesnt answer that conversation at all.
    So what information was I suppose to get?
    You came back into the thread on page 5 and asked where Valkyrie was implying that Stormpeaks afks at venues all day, when it was literally on the page beforehand. I'd understand if it was a very long thread or if it was from another thread, but all you had to do is go back one page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Don't you just sit in venues all day?

    EDIT:
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    the recap
    Yeah, I know what happened. It was still a very dumb question. Stormpeaks told you that you could figure it out because it should have been very easy for you to do so if you actually tried to.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 07-30-2023 at 12:59 PM. Reason: not wasting a daily post on this nonsense

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Ok, so if you yourself are saying that you are dumb and slow, then why would you be upset if other people are treating you as if you're dumb and slow? You asked a dumb question, and are insulted that others recognized it as such and refused to give you anything other than a dumb answer. I don't see how you can act like you're self aware but then also act insulted when other people look at you the same way you view yourself.
    No idea why we need to talk about this....
    But Im not upset that Im being Treated like Im dumb, Im upset that I literally asked for an Explanation because I didnt understand, and Im just insulted instead of just getting an answer to help me understand. If I was ignored, whatever, moving on.

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Literally every AlexaD post ever posted has been excruciatingly obvious about it.

    Yes, because it's not a case of people being paranoid over shadowy boogiemen if the person themselves intentionally and frequently makes it quite obvious that they're using an alt to post more than the ridiculous limit on these forums allows.
    Looks like I wasnt paying enough attention and just missed it.
    Whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    You came back into the thread on page 5 and asked where Valkyrie was implying that Stormpeaks afks at venues all day, when it was literally on the page beforehand. I'd understand if it was a very long thread or if it was from another thread, but all you had to do is go back one page.
    No....Here is a Recap.

    I agreed that is a stupid take to say "so because I do housing I shouldn't do MSQ"
    Even now, I still agree, that is a stupid thing to say. My Question/Conversation was...when did Valkyrie_Lenneth say this? and I even asked "Is there a message somewhere I missed?"
    AlexiaD / Stormpeaks then comes in to tell me "I'm sure you have a working brain, you can make it work and understand where they "said" this."
    Which I replied with "So you cant Explain how they said something that they didnt even say"
    That is the Play-by-Play of what happened.

    And then MintnHoney came in to explain it to me, because obviously, my brain doesn't function in a way that I would Pick up on that, my brain is literally searching for when Said Stupid take, was even said by Valkyrie_Lenneth. Verbatim.
    And thanks to MintnHoney giving me that explanation, I understand everyones mindset better. Because in my Area, we Criticize what is actually said, not subtleties hidden within. And we dont hide what we mean, we just say it.
    Im upset, I couldnt just get a simple explanation like that, instead of just being insulted.....or at that time it just felt like an insult, now its like...whatever, I am dumb, so its not even an insult.
    I just wanted to understand how someone said something they didnt even say.
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    Last edited by Zanarkand-Ronso; 07-30-2023 at 01:07 PM. Reason: Was gonna say somethig, but its not worth it, this was a waste of time anyway.

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