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  1. #11
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    This is one of the 300+ FC houses owned by a single person on Materia.
    Nobody is paying for the subscriptions with legitimate money.




    On average 4 submersibles makes ~1-2m every 3 days, multiply that by 300 Houses and you now have somebody making 600m/week.
    Once again, you are showing a multiowner, which is always or almost always done on a low level character, this proves nothing about RMT lol

    Also that person doesnt have all 300 fcs so this doesnt mean much
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 07-28-2023 at 08:16 AM.

  2. #12
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    Fawkes's Avatar
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    A good guess would be that 30-40% of the 1 million "active" players are indeed bots and alts.
    The active player statistic already removes millions of characters that could potentially be bots. There's no reason for gil farming bots to clear Endwalker. That's why there's an enormous discrepancy in the number of male hyurs in this graph.



    Unless you just mean players who sometimes use third party tools to automate gameplay, which there's no way to know. But they aren't fake, they're just bad people.
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  3. #13
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    how many of them are alts?
    Dunno but at least one of them is you.
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Dunno.

    But other MMOs, e.g., Runescape did at one point reveal that around 60% of its player base were bots.

    Also, yes, housing is limited, and dead servers don't change that fact, nor does the recent re-emergence of demolition, in a couple of weeks once people have realized they weren't lucky, they'll go for other houses, and then servers that even do have a somewhat abundance will be full again, e.g., Ragnarok, bar FC lots. It's an abysmal system. With the only ones once again being new worlds. - People should not need to transfer to another server to get a plot. The supply should be equalling demand if not exceeding for both personal and FC.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 07-28-2023 at 08:50 AM.

  5. #15
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
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  6. #16
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I mean what do you want to hear? A lot? Probably.

    Is the game in a decline right now? Probably, will it turn around for 7.0? Yeah it will, then it will go down again. Its how this game operates.
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  7. #17
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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    This is one of the 300+ FC houses owned by a single person on Materia.
    Nobody is paying for the subscriptions with legitimate money.




    On average 4 submersibles makes ~1-2m every 3 days, multiply that by 300 Houses and you now have somebody making 600m/week.
    I wonder how many multiowners don't change all the tags to being the same FC tag. If I was a multiowner, I'd probably try to hide that by making everything different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    My favorite part of all these theatrics is that even when people know it's 2 alts arguing with each other, you still see about a 50/50 split of Likes between one post or the other.

    The entire world, united together under the banner of, "I don't care, as long as the sockpuppet is saying something I agree with!"

  8. #18
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Lost Ark averaged 200 thousand concurrent players last March and April. How many of those are bots? Players later discovered that over half of them are bots.

    And given how FF14's STF is the epitome of ineptness, and given how the bot problem is getting worse and worse when people do less and less content, can we really say that the game has "grown"?

    I daresay that most of the player "growth" is actually driven by bots. A good guess would be that 30-40% of the 1 million "active" players are indeed bots and alts.
    Who cares? I certainly don't.
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  9. #19
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    Melia Carstairs
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    This is extremely rich coming from a dude known for having 20 billion alts to fuel his RMT business
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  10. #20
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Aserana Swian
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingErial View Post
    This is extremely rich coming from a dude known for having 20 billion alts to fuel his RMT business
    Source the guy is spending $200 billion a month to fund gold selling?

    If you can provide a source, I may have to invest in Square Enix or the alternative 0_o

    Clearly business to be done there!
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