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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Also, every since ARR, XIV has been extremely referential (on a superficial level) with almost every other title. It seems that they enjoy that... I particularly don't mind, since those stories tend to be their own as they develop when the reference is 'major' (i.e. 4 fiends)
    While I understand people's criticisms of this game taking so much from other games. It's been very clear that FFXIV' world and tone is rooted deep in series history and as a long time FF fan I welcome it as an MMO is exactly the type of game this referential structure would be fun and interesting to implement.

    I also have enjoyed more how they give old lore their own spin in a lot of ways to fit with FFXIV's world.
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    I appreciate this thread as an opportunity to bash FF7R. Its (non-existent) correlation to XIV is irrelevant.

    I had to go back and play the original to cleanse my palate after the "remake" ending pissed me off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I appreciate this thread as an opportunity to bash FF7R. Its (non-existent) correlation to XIV is irrelevant.

    I had to go back and play the original to cleanse my palate after the "remake" ending pissed me off.
    le gasp! but I thought everyone loved FF7R? :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    le gasp! but I thought everyone loved FF7R? :O
    Absolutely not. FF7R betrayed the original FF7 to create a so-called sequel awash with Nomura and Kitase-style fanfiction that disrespects the spirit of the original FF7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

    Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

    There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

    We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

    We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

    We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

    We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

    We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

    If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.
    This thread won't change anything. The expansion is likely in the finishing stages of development. If you don't like it don't play it. Posting that the game will lose half the player base is meaningless. It simply isn't true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    This thread won't change anything. The expansion is likely in the finishing stages of development. If you don't like it don't play it. Posting that the game will lose half the player base is meaningless. It simply isn't true.
    No one wants Sephiroth as a final boss. It is very much true that such a story would cause much revulsion among the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    No one wants Sephiroth as a final boss. It is very much true that such a story would cause much revulsion among the players.
    [ Citation and evidence needed ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    No one wants Sephiroth as a final boss. It is very much true that such a story would cause much revulsion among the players.
    Yeah I'm not sure. Three of the final bosses of this game have been direct FFVII references already (Ultima Weapon, which appeared in other FF but the design is the one from FFVII, Knights of the Round and Hades), and I've not read a lot of complaints about that. Since they also planned for Anima and Eden to be final bosses of 6.0 and 5.0 respectively (before plans changed), it means that outside of Endsinger, all their final bosses were references to previous games. And we know how fond CBU3 is of their patterns.
    Sure, it would annoy some people but the community seems to be fine with the idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Ill believe it, when I see it from the Official Source
    And not from some guy on an Chan Imageboard or whatever.
    We've had legit leaks from 4chan before, like the BLU leak (which also leaked Viera and Hrothgar). The whole plot of XVI was leaked months before release too.
    Not saying this one is correct, but it's not outside of CBU3's scope.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 07-28-2023 at 04:48 PM.

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    There are apparently "rumours" someone found in the textools about the letter krile got was apparently from a person who has the same name as a character from ff11 and that the next expansion will be based on ff11. I wouldnt believe any rumours on where we are going until fanfest tells us.
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    Last edited by Nebelheim; 07-28-2023 at 11:49 PM.

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    So.. all wrong then.

    TACO CAT SPELLED BACKWARDS IS STILL TACO CAT.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 07-29-2023 at 10:47 AM.

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