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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    5 pages and no source cited for "west wolves" lmao
    I couldn't find much either. Just some mentions of Square trademarking it. But we saw this with Forspoken so I'd take it all with a grain of salt.
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    west wolves... sea wolves... a roegadyn expansion it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I couldn't find much either. Just some mentions of Square trademarking it. But we saw this with Forspoken so I'd take it all with a grain of salt.
    Out of curiosity, I went and googled 'Square Enix west wolves'.

    Zero actual results. Considering the amount of people that pay attention to trademarks like it's one of their most passionate hobbies, there's no way some random leaker just happened to stumble upon some private trademark thing (if such a concept even exists) without anyone else noticing.

    The top link is this fucking thread.

    Meanwhile the Forspoken trademark news (along other SE trademarks like 'Harvestella' and 'The Divine Force' before anyone knew the latter was Star Ocean-related) spread like wildfire throughout all the gaming outlets with actual links/images of the exact trademark.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 07-28-2023 at 07:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    west wolves... sea wolves... a roegadyn expansion it is
    I was just thinking about that and it would be awesome if it were true. But I also agree that Westwolves sounds...weird for an expansion name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Out of curiosity, I went and googled 'Square Enix west wolves'.

    Zero actual results. Considering the amount of people that pay attention to trademarks like it's one of their most passionate hobbies, there's no way some random leaker just happened to stumble upon some private trademark thing (if such a concept even exists) without anyone else noticing.

    The top link is this fucking thread.

    Meanwhile the Forspoken trademark news (along other SE trademarks like 'Harvestella' and 'The Divine Force' before anyone knew the latter was Star Ocean-related) spread like wildfire throughout all the gaming outlets with actual links/images of the exact trademark.
    Yeah the only other place I've seen it mentioned is the bird app and without any sources there, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Out of curiosity, I went and googled 'Square Enix west wolves'.
    Need to do it as "Square Enix Westwolves" without the space. Looks like it was something posted on 4chan and some of the 4chan users have spread it around a bit into other media.

    Likely there is no trademark filing at all (why I said supposedly earlier since i couldn't come up with any other results either).

    I'm guessing our prolific local troll decided to use it as fuel for another fire for the lulz. Par for the course.
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    For context:

    Westwolves was initially picked up being registered by Square Enix by a twitter trademark scraping bot on the 6th alongside Slatebound and Starbreakers.
    This went unnoticed until Sunday of this past week when it started to gain traction in the XIV community.

    Within hours of people starting to take notice of and talk about it, the actual registered trademarks were taken down from the relevant English and Japanese databases and the tweet went missing.
    None of you are finding anything because SE, presumably, clamped down on the spread of these three trademarks before more people could see them.

    Sadly, no one can provide you proof and all you'll hear from people amounts to hearsay because none of us who -did- see it, thought to take a screenshot of the tweet or the chizai-watch registry page for the titles as who would really think a trademark could be hidden or rescinded after registry? It's a bit unexpected. That said, Skiros fell for the 4chan and twitter born meme of people parroting it as the expansion name, its not confirmed, its just a meme because SE buried it and two other trademarks before they could be caught by media outlets.

    Not many of those who are talking about it actually think its the title, its just a fun tongue in cheek meme borne hot off the heels of Endwalker's pre-reveal speculation of being "Forspoken" and we all know how -that- turned out. lol

    4chan is running with it like wildfire, but no one actually believes its the title.
    We just know it was a trademark SE filed earlier this month.

    For once, he's not trolling, but rather fell for the trolling of someone else.
    Take that as you will, I find it hilarious, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    For context:

    Westwolves was initially picked up being registered by Square Enix by a twitter trademark scraping bot on the 6th alongside Slatebound and Starbreakers.
    This went unnoticed until Sunday of this past week when it started to gain traction in the XIV community.

    Within hours of people starting to take notice of and talk about it, the actual registered trademarks were taken down from the relevant English and Japanese databases and the tweet went missing.
    None of you are finding anything because SE, presumably, clamped down on the spread of these three trademarks before more people could see them.

    Sadly, no one can provide you proof and all you'll hear from people amounts to hearsay because none of us who -did- see it, thought to take a screenshot of the tweet or the chizai-watch registry page for the titles as who would really think a trademark could be hidden or rescinded after registry? It's a bit unexpected. That said, Skiros fell for the 4chan and twitter born meme of people parroting it as the expansion name, its not confirmed, its just a meme because SE buried it and two other trademarks before they could be caught by media outlets.

    Not many of those who are talking about it actually think its the title, its just a fun tongue in cheek meme borne hot off the heels of Endwalker's pre-reveal speculation of being "Forspoken" and we all know how -that- turned out. lol

    4chan is running with it like wildfire, but no one actually believes its the title.
    We just know it was a trademark SE filed earlier this month.

    For once, he's not trolling, but rather fell for the trolling of someone else.
    Take that as you will, I find it hilarious, personally.
    Starbreakers does sound like a cool expansion name actually, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    New Job: Werewolf

    "All of our best and most skilled designers could not figure out how to make Beastmaster work in FFXIV, please understand."

    "Instead we have compromised by just giving you Reaper but furry."
    Too much work. Cause they'd also have to add Whywolves, Whenwolves, Whowolves, and Whatwolves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    For context:

    Westwolves was initially picked up being registered by Square Enix by a twitter trademark scraping bot on the 6th alongside Slatebound and Starbreakers.
    This went unnoticed until Sunday of this past week when it started to gain traction in the XIV community.

    Within hours of people starting to take notice of and talk about it, the actual registered trademarks were taken down from the relevant English and Japanese databases and the tweet went missing.
    None of you are finding anything because SE, presumably, clamped down on the spread of these three trademarks before more people could see them.

    Sadly, no one can provide you proof and all you'll hear from people amounts to hearsay because none of us who -did- see it, thought to take a screenshot of the tweet or the chizai-watch registry page for the titles as who would really think a trademark could be hidden or rescinded after registry? It's a bit unexpected. That said, Skiros fell for the 4chan and twitter born meme of people parroting it as the expansion name, its not confirmed, its just a meme because SE buried it and two other trademarks before they could be caught by media outlets.

    Not many of those who are talking about it actually think its the title, its just a fun tongue in cheek meme borne hot off the heels of Endwalker's pre-reveal speculation of being "Forspoken" and we all know how -that- turned out. lol

    4chan is running with it like wildfire, but no one actually believes its the title.
    We just know it was a trademark SE filed earlier this month.

    For once, he's not trolling, but rather fell for the trolling of someone else.
    Take that as you will, I find it hilarious, personally.
    At least in the US, trademark applications and registrations are required by federal law to be made available for public viewing by USPTO. SE doesn't have the ability to have them removed/hidden. If those applications were filed, they weren't done in the US.

    I would expect a JP filing to be picked up with a JP name, not an English name. Expansion titles in other languages usually aren't direct translations of the JP title.

    More likely nothing is being found because there never was anything filed in those names.
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