Every dungeon should be a Variant Dungeon

[TaleraRistain]

I think so, but you need to read the whole post in order to understand how the issue you brought up would be handled.

Unfortunately people would just bail if it isn't the route they want. People still bail on Castrum even after the changes.

[Ath192]

Unfortunately people would just bail if it isn't the route they want. People still bail on Castrum even after the changes.

I disagree on this heavily. Castrums problem is that the rewards are incorrectly imbalanced vs Prae. So it has nothing to do with its variability. If all paths are tuned to within a few minutes of completion time with the same reward this would not happen. So I don't think the scenario is comparative at all.

Its actually interesting we clearly see people dip on Castrum to get the longer Prae for a better reward. So they choose the most tedious path because its worth it. Finally, even when I do get Castrum and see people dip out, I have never seen a Castrum run completely dissolve and it always refills and the duty gets complete.

[TaleraRistain]

I disagree on this heavily. Castrums problem is that the rewards are incorrectly imbalanced vs Prae. So it has nothing to do with its variability. If all paths are tuned to within a few minutes of completion time with the same reward this would not happen. So I don't think the scenario is comparative at all.

Its actually interesting we clearly see people dip on Castrum to get the longer Prae for a better reward. So they choose the most tedious path because its worth it. Finally, even when I do get Castrum and see people dip out, I have never seen a Castrum run completely dissolve and it always refills and the duty gets complete.

Prae isn't really that long anymore. They're much more comparable than they were and people still dip.

[Ath192]

Prae isn't really that long anymore. They're much more comparable than they were and people still dip.

The rewards aren’t the same, and all dungeons in the roulette are different as well. You don’t see people dip when they don’t get something they’d prefer in leveling roulette for example, they just go with it. Small exemption with aurum vale and totorak pre-nerf, but now that they are retuned people run them just fine as well.

So unfortunately I don’t get the argument you are trying to make by comparing them. We are talking similar length stuff with variations and identical exp/gil rewards vs static renditions of the same dungeon over and over.

Your point is cautionary tale about creating disparate rewards and lengths per instance on the same roulette, which imo is a mistake for sure.