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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    Yeah, I doubt it. A WHM with all healbuffs up spamming Cure 3 and oGCDs on 8 targets might be enough to rip aggro from a single Provoke before it cools down again.
    IIRC overheal is also weighted at 0.5 threat per HP of Overheal (in contrast to damage's 1:1) so you'd actually have needed 40000 effective potency of overheal to rip threat, Cure3's 600, on 8 people, would be 4800, halve that (cos it's overheal) and you have 2400. So you could, I guess, cast 8 Cure 3's (20s, at 2.50 GCD), on a full team of 8 players, generate the required 20000 threat (and run yourself completely out of mana), and then have the tank... steal the threat back from you like 5 seconds later with their freshly reset Provoke? I guess that means that, while hard to time, it's technically possible for a healer to do this at just the right timing to snapshot a tankbuster onto themselves instead of the tank.

    This nonzero chance, which can only occur due to the healer player being really reckless with their MP (to the point where no sane player would think to do it), clearly justifies the tanks having a rotation instead of one button spam like us /s
    Hell, they even get to have at least 3 buttons to play with in AOE, we're stuck with one (well, two if you're SGE I guess) =(
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    Discount Hrothgar
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    IIRC overheal is also weighted at 0.5 threat per HP of Overheal (in contrast to damage's 1:1) so you'd actually have needed 40000 effective potency of overheal to rip threat, Cure3's 600, on 8 people, would be 4800, halve that (cos it's overheal) and you have 2400. So you could, I guess, cast 8 Cure 3's (20s, at 2.50 GCD), on a full team of 8 players, generate the required 20000 threat (and run yourself completely out of mana), and then have the tank... steal the threat back from you like 5 seconds later with their freshly reset Provoke? I guess that means that, while hard to time, it's technically possible for a healer to do this at just the right timing to snapshot a tankbuster onto themselves instead of the tank.

    This nonzero chance, which can only occur due to the healer player being really reckless with their MP (to the point where no sane player would think to do it), clearly justifies the tanks having a rotation instead of one button spam like us /s
    Hell, they even get to have at least 3 buttons to play with in AOE, we're stuck with one (well, two if you're SGE I guess) =(
    But wait! Don't forget to add in the additional potency from blowing Plenary and Presence of Mind and clipping Assize, Bene, Benis, and Tetra between those boosted, sped-up Cure 3s.

    You can throw away half a minute of tank DPS and waste every tool in your healkit for one sweet, sweet moment of 'WTF just happened???' comedy.
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