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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I swear these days 14 players just want to be given a level 90 character with a full set of relics just for logging in


    It’s a MMO, MMO’s are a grind, 14 is barely a grind as it is and now you don’t want to deal with one of the games oldest tradeoff’s, if you are desperate for both causality and experience run the roulettes on a levelling job then grind aetherfont for causality; or run the roulettes on a level 90 job then spam your highest available dungeon on your levelling job

    Come on there needs to be some reason to even bother logging in, they’ve already ruined the relic as it is
    That's a giant leap in assumptions. I just wanted a single roulette that was purely for daily leveling, without sacrificing a single roulette for tomestones. Shift 100 tomestones among the rest of the roulettes, and that's one less than you have to grind each day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatPagle View Post
    Shift 100 tomestones among the rest of the roulettes, and that's one less than you have to grind each day.
    Roulettes do not exist to give you tomestones. Tomestone rewards exist to incentivise max-level players to run roulettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Roulettes do not exist to give you tomestones. Tomestone rewards exist to incentivise max-level players to run roulettes.
    Why else would max-level players run roulettes, if not to "give you tomestones"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatPagle View Post
    Why else would max-level players run roulettes, if not to "give you tomestones"?
    Exactly.

    The rewards have been placed to get you to do the roulettes.

    Taking the rewards away from a roulette and redistributing it among other roulettes "to reduce your grind" benefits you and is a detriment to the roulette. People would stop running it at max level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Exactly.

    The rewards have been placed to get you to do the roulettes.

    Taking the rewards away from a roulette and redistributing it among other roulettes "to reduce your grind" benefits you and is a detriment to the roulette. People would stop running it at max level.
    Ok, yea, I get what you're saying now. The queue for something like the Leveling Roulette would never fill up (and you'd have the same problem as queuing for a dungeon as DPS), thus defeating the entire purpose. That makes total sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatPagle View Post
    That's a giant leap in assumptions. I just wanted a single roulette that was purely for daily leveling, without sacrificing a single roulette for tomestones. Shift 100 tomestones among the rest of the roulettes, and that's one less than you have to grind each day.
    Or…….and hear me out, if you want more tomestones because you are using the roulettes to level then just run aetherfont an extra time after you complete the roulettes for the day

    The roulettes are there to fill old queues, not help you get tomestones, if you want more then grind for them, it’s not like the game is stingy with them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Or…….and hear me out, if you want more tomestones because you are using the roulettes to level then just run aetherfont an extra time after you complete the roulettes for the day

    The roulettes are there to fill old queues, not help you get tomestones, if you want more then grind for them, it’s not like the game is stingy with them
    I've seen running Aetherfont a few times in this thread, and that is solid advice that I had not considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatPagle View Post
    I've seen running Aetherfont a few times in this thread, and that is solid advice that I had not considered.
    I’m sorry, I’m hindsight I was kinda rude especially since you seem open to genuine advice, so yeah my suggestion would be to run any of the level 90 dungeons, they all give a lot of causality even when they arent being accessed in the roulette

    Quote Originally Posted by NatPagle View Post
    Why else would max-level players run roulettes, if not to "give you tomestones"?
    I think their point there is more the tomestones exist to get max level players to fill the roulettes, not the other way around
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatPagle View Post
    That's a giant leap in assumptions. I just wanted a single roulette that was purely for daily leveling, without sacrificing a single roulette for tomestones. Shift 100 tomestones among the rest of the roulettes, and that's one less than you have to grind each day.
    gonna have to agree with the others. i have every class at level 90, and sometimes i run leveling by myself or with friends who want to level. taking that "reward" away will only make me, and other people like me not want to queue, thus making leveling roulette queue even longer.
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