Thread: 18.5% drop in players in only 8 weeks

Originally Posted by Elissar

I agree with everything.
Another interesting source is twitchtracker. FFXIV never had such attention like happened in Endwalker. I believe that a new beginning will bring the population somewhere between Stormblood and Shadowbringers.

Personally, as long as my queues keep popping in less than 5min as DPS and i find people to do stuff in Party finder... i won't worry. It's a problem that SE need to worry later on.





Here the pattern is clear, almost like a cluster

how can anyone see this and think ff14 succeeded lmao

it's like someone just giving you 5 million gold bars and 2 years later they're all already gone with nothing to show

you'll never get this chance again, ff14 had its shot and failed. sad

Originally Posted by Koros

you'll never get this chance again, ff14 had its shot and failed. sad

I know you are trolling but i will take your bait and see if i can contribute with some useful info if anyone is honestly interested.

TwitchTracker and any stream platform is a mean to analyze AUDIENCE (e.g: people that probably is not playing the game right now for multiple reasons).

We can say that is a indirect way to measure hype. Keep in mind that our community is weird and the same person may watch multiple streamers just to see reactions to a specific scene (me included).


World of Warcraft




ESO



Lost Ark



New World

IMHO, Guild Wars 2 is a better game than ESO in multiple aspects and is not generating the same hype. I would blame: marketing, lack of visual fidelity and introduction is childish for some races. Open World exploration and progress is great, but after a while is boring. GW2 has a loyal community and is way better than Lost Ark and New World in terms of stability. ESO positive aspects: the name Elder Scrolls (marketing), immersive quests and multiple choices. Negative: paywall everywhere and most expensive sub (premium) system available.

Talking about FFXIV, FFXIV has the potential to create hype and draw attention, the name (brand) is strong like Elder Scrolls or Warcraft and the audience plots (TwitchTracker) shows the same behavior as World of Warcraft - a game 19 years old. That's all we can say with our superficial data. Anything beyond this is a mere speculation. We can combine lodestone data and XIVCensus but only SE knows the truth.

Based on my daily experience, I see sprouts everywhere all the time and my queue times are lower than ShB days. We can't measure our retention. For now, i would say that any decline isn't a big surprise for Yoshida, he said it himself multiple times. However, as the hype/audience graphics are showing, it's a constant build up and decline. If Guild Wars 2 is active as a flatline in steam charts and survived for years before steam and even WoW still receive some attention after everything weird going on... i can't see a dark future for FFXIV. They need to make 3x the effort they did in ARR to ruin this game.