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    The game isn't releasing a whole lot of worthwhile content. And its trending to become more solo friendly. Everyone knows this. There are far better solo games than this one thats for sure. Therefore, the solution would be for this game to become an ever better MMO but nope. It's trying to be a better solo game and because of its MMO roots its always going to be subpar at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    The game isn't releasing a whole lot of worthwhile content. And its trending to become more solo friendly. Everyone knows this. There are far better solo games than this one thats for sure. Therefore, the solution would be for this game to become an ever better MMO but nope. It's trying to be a better solo game and because of its MMO roots its always going to be subpar at that.
    True, this game is getting more solo friendly but then again it is easier for some who does not have all day to wait for a party to come up or those who enjoyed doing content by themselves or does not have any friends to go with, even those who does not trust PF. To me, to each its own in this matter and what should not affected the numbers at all.

    For content, I keep wandering how much more content players want. I think this game has more content than any other MMOs I ever seen and we want more??? That can burn out a person in a heartbeat. They should be looking to improve on the content they have now (Better Awards, New Achievements, etc, etc, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.
    Very limited mindset, or you are just here to cause Drama and put down the game.

    Its perfectly normal to play other games, especially new games that interest you. To take a break, and play something else.

    Many people do this, Unless you only play 1 game your whole life.
    Its nothing new or groundbreaking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    I'm not sure this can explain the drop, since (compared to Steam for exemple) the survey is very generous and you basically only need to log once and do any activity in the last two months to be counted as an active.
    While Totk and Diablo IV released right at the start of the survey, XVI happened in the middle of those last 8 weeks, so people who logged in the weeks before would still be counted.
    It can't be the only explanation.
    Pretty much. It ran between 20/05 to 22/07. He would normally cut it off before the .x5 but says he miscalculated based on autotranslate. One possible factor that comes to mind is a FLC not being in operation this time. On the other hand, and in the other direction, there was also this affecting this survey but I'd imagine it'd be a smallish bump up to it at most.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    There's no msq in 6.45 so I'm assuming the drop off is due to people who only sub for story.
    Like Kazhar said, that's not how it works. This survey would've caught 6.4.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-25-2023 at 05:59 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    It does keep growing. This is the normal ebb and flow you see every expansion. You will see these numbers drastically skyrocket after the expansion announcement. Enjoy all the hype that is coming! I know you are excited for it!
    this toxic positivity is more cringe than the trolls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    this toxic positivity is more cringe than the trolls
    It's not toxic positivity, more so than denial.
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    Not terribly surprising.

    The patches in EW have been terrible at actually keeping people playing, which isn't exactly a good business model for a subscription based game. Back in the day, I had trouble tearing my friends away from FF14 to do other things. Now I have way more trouble getting them to log in and play it. Even the people I know who really love this game are having a hard time justifying how dire the EW postgame has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.
    If you really think so, why are you here instead of playing those big games?
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    Lucky Bancho survey for patch 5.45: 900k active characters over level 60

    Lucky Bancho survey for patch 6.45: 1.13 million active characters over level 60.

    If this expansion was truly as bad as some want the public to think, shouldn't the 6.45 numbers be lower than the 5.45 numbers considering the praise that Shadowbringers garnered?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    The game isn't releasing a whole lot of worthwhile content. And its trending to become more solo friendly. Everyone knows this. There are far better solo games than this one thats for sure. Therefore, the solution would be for this game to become an ever better MMO but nope. It's trying to be a better solo game and because of its MMO roots its always going to be subpar at that.
    My guess is they're aiming for solo game play with an immersive social experience. It's really hard to say.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-25-2023 at 08:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Lucky Bancho survey for patch 5.45: 900k active characters over level 60

    Lucky Bancho survey for patch 6.45: 1.13 million active characters over level 60.

    If this expansion was truly as bad as some want the public to think, shouldn't the 6.45 numbers be lower than the 5.45 numbers considering the praise that Shadowbringers garnered?


    My guess is they're aiming for solo game play with an immersive social experience. It's really hard to say.
    As usual jojoya missed the point so they can defend small indie company

    The point isn’t that EW has overall higher players than ShB (which is to be expected because EW had the hype from ShB and WOW’s premature collapse while ShB came off the relatively flat SB), it’s that EW patches aren’t holding the playerbase like previous expansion patches are, people are unsubbing quicker and for longer
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