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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    You are very much correct. They are indeed different genres, and it is well-known that the entire MMO genre is in decline. Quite sadly, FF14 is simply one of the better options in a pile of garbage.
    TheNight. TheDecay. Both joining here quite recently saying different variations of the same thing like "bad faith" n such. Veeeeeeery interesting.

    Also if xiv is the best of the garbage you just admitted to actively choosing to spend money every month on what you deem garbage. That doesn't make you look smart...like at all. I don't even know why you're posting anyways as iirc you've expressed you want this game to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    It does keep growing. This is the normal ebb and flow you see every expansion. You will see these numbers drastically skyrocket after the expansion announcement. Enjoy all the hype that is coming! I know you are excited for it!
    There is no "normal ebb and flow". You can see this if you go back and look at what past surveys said. ShB had a massive influx of players at this point of its expansion, and SB had massive DDoS attacks that were expected to be decreasing the player count. I tried to find similar data for 3.45, but there was not a survey conducted by LuckyBancho for 3.45. To your point about expansion announcement driving an increase in player count, 5.45 included the announcement of EW muddying the data, and the trend from 4.4 to 4.5 saw an increase after the end of the DDoS attacks(4.45) followed by a small drop with the release of 4.5.

    Case in point, there is no such thing as a normal pattern, because we don't live in a vacuum with normative conditions. Events outside the game are important driving factors to the game's population that prevent accurate comparison to supposedly similar points across time.

    PS From a data analysis perspective, the hype train for ShB did not begin until after patch 4.55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    It does keep growing. This is the normal ebb and flow you see every expansion. You will see these numbers drastically skyrocket after the expansion announcement. Enjoy all the hype that is coming! I know you are excited for it!

    Not trying to be combative, honestly curious. Do we really expect fanfest/expansion announcement to bump population? Your best guess on expansion release date? Mine is Mayish but could easily see July. Why would anyone come back for an expansion announced close to a year away? If they announce expansion release for Xmas then dam, I expect servers to be jumping. Also remember we only have one patch left. And to the others splitting a patch in half doesn't make it two patches. So with worst case scenario July players are looking at 3 patches in 18 months. I don't see people who have played this game being excited about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    I mean you'll say its copium but its almost like in those 8 weeks a lot of big games came out that garnered attention.
    I'm not sure this can explain the drop, since (compared to Steam for exemple) the survey is very generous and you basically only need to log once and do any activity in the last two months to be counted as an active.
    While Totk and Diablo IV released right at the start of the survey, XVI happened in the middle of those last 8 weeks, so people who logged in the weeks before would still be counted.
    It can't be the only explanation.
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    There's no msq in 6.45 so I'm assuming the drop off is due to people who only sub for story.
    Either way, we get this kind of post every couple months, nothing new. The game is still standing and kicking even though people have been saying it's dying for what seems like forever now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.
    I'm sorry but FFXIV to me has always been average? It's only popular because of its game design attracting so many casuals but if you want games that have more depth, substance and meat in them, you'd best look elsewhere.


    I wish everyone including you can finally wake up and realize this undeniable truth. FFXIV was never great, only average.
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    While Fanfest might hype people up and revitalize the game a bit, I can't see the game hitting the unusual boom of Endwalker release ever again.

    As long as there is some semblance of stability, there's no need to panic (yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Okay, TheNight. We get you. This game is not your cup of tea and you come on the forums to look at and say all of the negative stuff. That is fine, sure we lost a few good players and gaining alot more. Besides I think you never been here when places like Limsa and Ul'dah was like a ghost town and queues was over 30 mins for dailies.

    MMOs always got ebb and flow and you going to have great numbers sometimes and sucky number at others.

    Here is a question for you, Would you deal with something like this (drop in players) or nothing at all (The game is gone(EOS))?



    Please stop being a Pandora actor okay? It is getting very very old
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    Last edited by NekiUno; 07-25-2023 at 03:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    It does keep growing. This is the normal ebb and flow you see every expansion. You will see these numbers drastically skyrocket after the expansion announcement. Enjoy all the hype that is coming! I know you are excited for it!
    Pretty much. We are at probably one of the lower points of an expansion - 2nd year into it, and mid-patch at that. Nothing exciting to see here. And as others have mentioned, this year has a ton of strong AAA games coming out that are brand new and not something people have played for years that people are spending time on.

    I guess this is all interesting enough for some people to want to be here daily for hours a day finding new ways to try to get people up in arms over nothing.
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    Funny how Luckybancho is a valid metric for Doomers when they want to point to something negative.
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