Thread: 18.5% drop in players in only 8 weeks

Originally Posted by CStrife912

I mean you'll say its copium but its almost like in those 8 weeks a lot of big games came out that garnered attention.

Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.

Originally Posted by TheNight

Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.

I mean its apples to oranges...different genres altogether in some cases, they played other games cause it was a busy month it doesn't mean 14 is bad in comparison that's pure hyperbole on your part lol. Either way like someone else put unless this holds water long term it doesn't really imply much....if these drops concern you go forbid other games. I feel sorry for WoW players then when they were halfway in shadowlands the sky must have been falling but yet here we are.

Originally Posted by TheNight

You are very much correct. They are indeed different genres, and it is well-known that the entire MMO genre is in decline. Quite sadly, FF14 is simply one of the better options in a pile of garbage.

TheNight. TheDecay. Both joining here quite recently saying different variations of the same thing like "bad faith" n such. Veeeeeeery interesting.

Also if xiv is the best of the garbage you just admitted to actively choosing to spend money every month on what you deem garbage. That doesn't make you look smart...like at all. I don't even know why you're posting anyways as iirc you've expressed you want this game to fail.

Originally Posted by TheNight

Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.

Very limited mindset, or you are just here to cause Drama and put down the game.

Its perfectly normal to play other games, especially new games that interest you. To take a break, and play something else.

Many people do this, Unless you only play 1 game your whole life.
Its nothing new or groundbreaking

Originally Posted by TheNight

Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.

If you really think so, why are you here instead of playing those big games?

Originally Posted by TheNight

Indeed, those big games came out and players realized how bad FF14 is in comparison.

Exactly, every single one is a MMORPG.

"FFXIV is dying i swear"

Originally Posted by Reap00

It does keep growing. This is the normal ebb and flow you see every expansion. You will see these numbers drastically skyrocket after the expansion announcement. Enjoy all the hype that is coming! I know you are excited for it!

Originally Posted by CStrife912

I mean you'll say its copium but its almost like in those 8 weeks a lot of big games came out that garnered attention.

Agreed. What determines growth is "Is it more than it was a this same point in the last expansion", and all of the data seems to say yes, meaning growth. And we do have a lot of big name games coming out that people want to take a break from FF14 to go play before coming back. "how bad FF14 is in comparison" is the absolute dumbest take possible. People always take breaks to go play other big games they've been anticipating. FF16 is only one of many. I've been looking forward to Remnant 2, and it's going to suck my gaming time for the next couple weeks.

This is normal.

Again, growth is happening if we're apples-to-apples, expansion-on-expansion-at-this-point higher in number than we were in the last one, and we seem to be. Therefore, the game is growing. /shrug

Originally Posted by Renathras

Agreed. What determines growth is "Is it more than it was a this same point in the last expansion", and all of the data seems to say yes, meaning growth. [...]
Again, growth is happening if we're apples-to-apples, expansion-on-expansion-at-this-point higher in number than we were in the last one, and we seem to be. Therefore, the game is growing. /shrug

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. That is not how you measure growth. Growth is a trend metric, and as such you do not measure it by taking two points in exclusion to the rest of the set. Doing so has a high likelihood of giving you an erroneous result. The only thing you can determine from noting that a more recent point is higher than a previous point is that a growth period had happened between the two points. You can not conclude that it is still happening or that it had not reversed at some point between the two points.

To accurately determine the trend of a data set, you must look at the entire set.

As a practical example, consider this chart of the stock market which shows the 1929 crash(Cropped for readability). If I were to look only at the points I have marked in red, using your proposed methodology, I might conclude that the market was in a period of growth at the latter point. When in actuality, the second marked point is towards the beginning of a massive decline.


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