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  1. #181
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    Arohk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    And the ingame rewards are all high quality, especially the stuff from the treasure maps. Taste in that may vary but i think nobody can say that the free glam in XIV is badly designed compared to the shops glam.
    Yeah right, "high quality" dungeon loot is mostly all just recolors of old content, the "quality" of most glamour in the game is very low because the game has to run on PS4 and not cause performance issues.
    I can litteraly go to the glamour dresser or modarchive and when i compare what people do in their free time to what is actually in the game, there is a huge gap in quality and not in FF14's favour.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    I don't believe any of this pathetic excuses, I heard it first hand from ex-sqex employee working on FFXIV. When I asked them, they laughing their ass off, there is no such thing as angry lady LMAO....
    The oldest most bs thing anyone could say on a forum. Rofl
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Still bored so I went through and added the price of all WoW cash shop items, which comes out to $935
    I don't have nearly enough time to add up all the FF14 items but someone did it in 2020 and came out to $2616.50, and that was three years ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_on_the_mog/)
    Dragon Quest X also has a pretty full on cash shop. It has an incredibly large amount of items for glamour, mounts, colouring items, housing, emotes, accessories, HUD Face expressions and ingame buffs. Games playable without it for sure but it has orbs that boost EXP gain for 30 minutes, treasure map content and so on. The XIV store is certainly par for the course for Square Enix. At least the prices aren't as incredibly painful.

    If anyone wants to take a gander: https://hiroba.dqx.jp/sc/shop
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  5. #184
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    Dionysius's Avatar
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    Zeack Crosse
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    The oldest most bs thing anyone could say on a forum. Rofl
    Whatever, keep making excuses that this isn't any of the dev fault. No one cares about stupid excuses.
    You sell that crap, you take responsibility for it, grow some common sense.
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  6. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Still bored so I went through and added the price of all WoW cash shop items, which comes out to $935
    I don't have nearly enough time to add up all the FF14 items but someone did it in 2020 and came out to $2616.50, and that was three years ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_on_the_mog/)
    Forgot the Wow Token that brings in a Hell of a lot of money for blizzard. So $935 is just what the public can see..
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  7. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Forgot the Wow Token that brings in a Hell of a lot of money for blizzard. So $935 is just what the public can see..
    It's not just the WoW token. It's the paid character services as well. Race change, name change, realm transfer, etc.
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  8. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's not just the WoW token. It's the paid character services as well. Race change, name change, realm transfer, etc.
    Like to be a jerk from time to time with the love of my life I say that I will race change to a Lala. Oh the looks I get from across the room with that one..lol
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  9. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's optional. It only affects you if you willing to shell out the dough. Been playing this game for years and had a lot of fun with it. Never bought one thing.
    This is the shoddiest defense of price gouging I've ever seen.
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  10. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    This is the shoddiest defense of price gouging I've ever seen.
    It's (un)surprisingly common here. Doesn't matter that the company hosting their favorite mmo is slowly becoming scummier and pushing the envelope on what it can and can't get away with from a monetization standpoint; long as they can keep doing their own thing, then all is well. And it is! It's all well and good ... until the company's awful anti-consumer business practices touch something they like. Once some feature they wanted to see in the game is being sold to them for the price of a whole separate video game, then it'll be their turn to make a thread complaining about it. A lot of people woke up to this reality when the dog mount they assumed would be a blu reward for playing the game was sold to them instead. Sooner or later, everyone sees a glam item they like, only to do the research and learn that it's a cash shop exclusive, sold in a bundle of gear they don't want but will be forced to pay for anyway if they want to get the singular piece they were after to begin with. Or an emote that was bundled with a figurine 5 years ago that can only be purchased nowadays through scalpers. Or maybe it'll be Christmas and you'll want a tree for your FC house and then you'll learn that you can either spend 10 million gil on a hoarder's marketboard tree or several dollars in the cash shop since they're never bringing that event back because they'd rather just sell you the damn thing.

    In a perfect world we'd all want Square to adopt more consumer-friendly business practices surrounding their cash shop, especially since we're already buying each expansion and paying a sub, but Square will never ever feel that kind of pressure because for every one (1) person who thinks critically about this sort of thing and what the implications are going forward, there are like 300 people who will just buy whatever's on the cash shop the moment it comes out. So in a weird way, I can understand Renalt's inability to give a shit. I just hope he's not shocked when one day the things he has fun with disappear behind a paywall. It sucks too, because you can avoid the shop and refuse to spend money there out of protest, "vote with your wallet" and all that, but the hyper-whales in this game who buy and gift and fanta-addict and etc. will invalidate your vote 200 times over. You can do everything "right" from a conscious consumer standpoint and still end up with the stereotypical greed-motivated game run by a company that creates problems to sell you cash shop solutions, in part because people with more money than sense can't just close their wallet for two minutes.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 07-25-2023 at 06:35 PM.

  11. #190
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    Renalt El'doran
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    It's simple. Vote with your wallet. I go by that rule with every single game or really anything in life.

    I do not like microtransactions. Instead of making post after post after post after post about how much i dislike it...I just don't buy it. Why? Because money talks.

    I don't like the direction the game is going. I've lost interest. If 7.0 doesn't start steering in the direction I like? I'm gone. No microtransactions. No sub. Done.

    I don't like Blizzard. Therefore I don't buy their games. Would I like Diablo 4? Probably. But I vote with my wallet.

    I don't like EA. I don't buy their games. Would I like Jedi Survivor? Probably. I vote with my wallet.

    I'm not contributing to the practice of "Man I really don't like these...but I want it so here is my money".

    Will others disagree with this view? Absolutely. However you know why I do what I do. I won't change it. You can't change it.
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