Please prevent pre-made parties from queueing into Frontline

[Valence]

You don't need voice comms to follow a marker and a countdown macro. Both are totally redundant if you're an experienced player.

I'd argue that voice only helps with actual green horns that need to be lead and babysitted at all times.

People that queue into those specific stompy DRK/DRG premades are not green horns. They don't need comms to work efficiently either.

[Xylira]

You don't need voice comms to follow a marker and a countdown macro. Both are totally redundant if you're an experienced player.

I'd argue that voice only helps with actual green horns that need to be lead and babysitted at all times.

People that queue into those specific stompy DRK/DRG premades are not green horns. They don't need comms to work efficiently either.

Right, they don't need voice chat because they already know the game plan. They're queuing into matches knowing what job each is going to play, the combo they're going to abuse, and how it's going to be coordinated. They don't have to worry about ending up on a team that doesn't have others playing the necessary jobs, or if they do that those players are willing or capable of sufficiently coordinating those cheap combos.

... which all sounds a lot like a distinct advantage over solo queuing.

[Mawlzy]

You don't need voice comms to follow a marker and a countdown macro. Both are totally redundant if you're an experienced player.

I'd argue that voice only helps with actual green horns that need to be lead and babysitted at all times.

People that queue into those specific stompy DRK/DRG premades are not green horns. They don't need comms to work efficiently either.

Agreed that with more experience, voice becomes less of a relative edge, but one doesn't need to speculate about its efficacy. There are YouTube videos that illustrate the devastation. Besides, isn't it self-evident that stopping to pop a macro into chat like "DRK LB ready" is far less efficient than voicing "LB in 3...2..." to three associates who are primed and ready? In other words, an experienced premade may not *need* voice (which illustrates why they're a problem!), but with it they are even more effective.

[Valence]

I'd be curious to see such videos.

I still have yet to be on the receiving end of those infamous combos, even if I have seen some of them, and I'm starting to have the feeling that it's truly about a skill issue more than anything else. But I do get it, it's like if ranked CC mixed together top 100 players with casual first timers.

[maximesan514]

I cannot agree more, I think before 6.1 it was fine but since this new trash pvp skillset was implemented it should be solo queue.

[Latorn]

You cannot queue into frontlines as 8. The maximum is 4. Queue syncing does not work in a 3 team game, the odds are always against you. Please stop spreading misinformation.

I only play frontlines in a group of 2-3, if they remove the ability to play with my friends I will stop playing, just like I did CC. Please enjoy CC if you want to solo queue experience.