Please prevent pre-made parties from queueing into Frontline

[Astralrisk]

Others have said my point better, but pre-mades are not the reason why you are losing frontlines. It does help to have a coordinated party of 4 people, but 4 people can't carry 24 people to victory. Especially when FLs encourages you to stay together as a whole alliance over smaller groups. Removing the ability to queue pre-mades for FL, or any PvP mode at that, unironically makes the game worse for the majority and I don't understand why people genuinely think it's a good idea.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

If they remove premade from FL then I won't do frontlines beyond daily roulettes anymore.

Been having fun with my premade friends queing at least up to 10 matches a day when we play together with whatever setups.

[DefaultMiqote]

I wouldn't play frontlines if I couldn't do it with my friends! It's not fun for me. It takes a really long time to queue into as well!

[IllidanFang]

Title. I've lost so many Frontline matches just because I happened to queue in to an alliance that didn't have a pre-made party. They're easy to spot. If you see a group of 6 - 8 players, all with battle high V, you've run into a pre-made party and there's nothing you can do about it except hope the match ends soon so you can try again afterwards.

It's depressing.

I just don't understand. You can't queue into Crystalline Conflict matches while you're in a party, so why don't the same rules apply to Frontline? The same consequences apply in both game modes.

Some might argue to not take Frontline so seriously since it's just chaos and most people just queue in for tomes or exp. The only problem with that logic is that there are several mounts locked behind wins. None for participation, only wins.

Some might also argue to not be a bad loser and to take losses in stride. This is a little more fair, but you'd think that Square Enix would recognize that Frontline is by far the worst-designed thing in the game and soften the blow of unfair match-making by making the mount rewards participation-only.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just heated because I'm making this thread immediately after a Frontline roulette, but I'll let y'all be the judge.

Someone got farmed alittle too much by drk ast spam, ya hate to see it

[Wilford111]

Someone got farmed alittle too much by drk ast spam, ya hate to see it

lol just the other day, literally half of my alliance got KO'd by a DRK pull + DRG LB. We lost that match by a looot of points.

[4clubbedace]

CC is the actual serious pvp that shits balanced at all, you cant even duos in casual (bleh)

frontlines is a 24 v 24 v 24 mess, its just a chaos rush and hope someone can do chat callouts and ppl listen

classes hsould not be balanced with fl in mind, thats actual crazy talk

[ThaCa]

Bigger issue than people making small parties in Frontlines is the lousy current balance.
People wanted to tune down the AoE spam, because their only tactic was deathballing and still is.
Now since everyone was given unholy amount of damage resistance people use what still works.
Your best bet is to wait for 7.0 Frontline revamp, I doubt they are going to make larger changes until then.

As for partying up in general, I would love to see them allowing it in Casual CC. If people are worried about it being valuable enough for higher rank premades coming in and stomping, then increase the Ranked rewards in comparison so much that it's not worth it to do over just playing Ranked.

[Valence]

I'm so confused at what your point is supposed to be about if premades are not a problem then.

[Xylira]

I also didn't say that premades weren't a problem. They are part of the problem, not necessarily the problem.

The terrible balancing of job synergy in FL is also part of the problem.

Premades would be tolerable if the balance of job synergy wasn't so poorly balanced as they are that combinations exist that can easily wipe entire teams. And the issue of job synergy balance wouldn't be so bad if there weren't premades going out of their way to abuse the balance issues to maximum effect. It's the combination of the two things together that is the real issue.

I'm all for it if SE would actually put more effort into balancing for FLs. But I get the feeling they're just going to ignore it as usual. At the end of the day, I just want the issue dealt with in one way or another.

[RyanCousland]

I think I'd be in favor of the 72 man being solo provided there be an alternative 3 gc 8 team premade mode, I understand anyone's grievances but if we're requesting alterations or restrictions please have an alternative to couple with it