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  1. #1
    Player
    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    The right answer is you use neither and spam holy cause stunned enemies that can't deal damage are literally also healing!
    It works only if the mobs die fast enough. Because they will become immune to your stuns when you stun them too often with holy.


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    DixieBellOCE's Avatar
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    Playful Kitten
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    I'm running my first healer in dungeons, and at 50 & below in leveling roulettes, I use Cure 80% of the time (400 MP), and Cure II (1000 MP) for emergency heals when someone gets too low.

    I've had two players suggest in these runs that I forget about Cure, and just use Cure II. I tried this once, and ran out of MP in no time. Is there some MP magic other than Lucid Dreaming that will let me use Cure II all the time?
    Regen on the tank

    Cure 2 Single Target

    Medica 2 AOE

    Benediction for emergencies on the tank

    Lucid Dreaming at ~8k MP

    If the tank is still dying, they need to learn to play.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Remember guys we all know sylphies by choice are annoying as hell but this guy is legit trying to learn and the idea of choosing your heals based on your inherent knowledge of around how much they will heal/how much they slow the tank dropping is not something you know immediately or even something that you know to look out for in an attempt to learn how to do it

    Sylphies spamming cure 1 in aetherfont are a joke but responding to every healer advice thread with “cure 1 is useless” doesn’t help anyone, come on even us constantly online jaded healer vets you are sick of brigading every thread with know that

    I’m gonna put a disclaimer here, I don’t mean I think cure 1 is useful, cure 1 is useless, I mean if someone is saying “should I use cure 1 or 2 and help me understand why” responding with “cure 1 is useless” and nothing else isn’t helping them
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-24-2023 at 01:43 PM.

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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Remember guys we all know sylphies by choice are annoying as hell but this guy is legit trying to learn and the idea of choosing your heals based on your inherent knowledge of around how much they will heal/how much they slow the tank dropping is not something you know immediately or even something that you know to look out for in an attempt to learn how to do it

    Sylphies spamming cure 1 in aetherfont are a joke but responding to every healer advice thread with “cure 1 is useless” doesn’t help anyone, come on even us constantly online jaded healer vets you are sick of brigading every thread with know that
    But it's kinda true. The amount a non crit cure 1 heals is roughly the same amount if not more damage taken by the time the GCD can be used again. At best you are draining your MP to keep them exactly as they are and doing no DPS.

    I rather Cure 2 once every 15 seconds than heal bot and spam cure 1 the very second the GCD is ready.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    But it's kinda true. The amount a non crit cure 1 heals is roughly the same amount if not more damage taken by the time the GCD can be used again. At best you are draining your MP to keep them exactly as they are and doing no DPS.

    I rather Cure 2 once every 15 seconds than heal bot and spam cure 1 the very second the GCD is ready.
    I just give them the disclaimer beforehand that I don't actually have a medical license and am not a real healer. My profession is Necromancer/Undertaker... >.>
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I just give them the disclaimer beforehand that I don't actually have a medical license and am not a real healer. My profession is Necromancer/Undertaker... >.>
    This is why we can be friends.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    But it's kinda true. The amount a non crit cure 1 heals is roughly the same amount if not more damage taken by the time the GCD can be used again. At best you are draining your MP to keep them exactly as they are and doing no DPS.

    I rather Cure 2 once every 15 seconds than heal bot and spam cure 1 the very second the GCD is ready.
    It’s not that it isn’t true, it’s that saying “don’t use cure 1” and then ending the comment there isn’t really helpful to someone who doesn’t understand why you shouldn’t be using cure 1 and wants it explained to them

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Nah, cure 1 is useless, remove it from your bar when you get cure 2
    Refer to above
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-24-2023 at 01:44 PM.

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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s not that it isn’t true, it’s that saying “don’t use cure 1” and then ending the comment there isn’t really helpful to someone who doesn’t understand why you shouldn’t be using cure 1 and wants it explained to them



    Refer to above
    Ok now that makes sense. I agree. If someone is gonna take a stance they do need to explain their reasoning. There is a reason teachers ask you to "Show your work".
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Remember guys we all know sylphies by choice are annoying as hell but this guy is legit trying to learn and the idea of choosing your heals based on your inherent knowledge of around how much they will heal/how much they slow the tank dropping is not something you know immediately or even something that you know to look out for in an attempt to learn how to do it

    Sylphies spamming cure 1 in aetherfont are a joke but responding to every healer advice thread with “cure 1 is useless” doesn’t help anyone, come on even us constantly online jaded healer vets you are sick of brigading every thread with know that
    Nah, cure 1 is useless, remove it from your bar when you get cure 2
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Aserana Swian
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Nah, cure 1 is useless, remove it from your bar when you get cure 2
    Or don't remove it from your bar. I saw somebody take that advice once, and then they loaded into a pre-Cure 2 dungeon and have nothing to heal with without fumbling about with their bars.
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