7.0 copium has got to stop

[Jojoya]

Maybe shills like you should start playing other games instead so youd realize how shallow the game truly is

I do play other games. I play to have fun, not to be a game critic. I'm having fun here and in my other games. That's why I play them.

Someone who likes a game and is posting about it in the game's own forums is not a shill. A shill would be posting in the forums of other games, bashing those games as terrible while trying to talk about this other great game that everyone should go play.

I'm surprised that you haven't figured out by now that all MMORPGs are shallow. Calling the game shallow is hardly insulting when all the rest are just as bad (if not worse).

Maybe you should be playing other games so you're not stuck playing a game that you find so detestable. Considering how often I'm encouraging posters to give other games a try if this one isn't to their liking, it's extra ironic that you're trying to label me as a shill.

That's just wrong. You need crafted gear to do Savage.

Only if you intend to jump into Savage the first few weeks of release. Otherwise you can wait until you've grabbed some pieces from Normal plus what you can buy with the weekly capped tomestones. By the time you can get your first weapon using the tokens from Normal (yes, 7 weeks, I know), you shouldn't need crafted gear anymore.

[Koros]

I do play other games. I play to have fun, not to be a game critic. I'm having fun here and in my other games. That's why I play them.

Someone who likes a game and is posting about it in the game's own forums is not a shill. A shill would be posting in the forums of other games, bashing those games as terrible while trying to talk about this other great game that everyone should go play.

I'm surprised that you haven't figured out by now that all MMORPGs are shallow. Calling the game shallow is hardly insulting when all the rest are just as bad (if not worse).

Maybe you should be playing other games so you're not stuck playing a game that you find so detestable. Considering how often I'm encouraging posters to give other games a try if this one isn't to their liking, it's extra ironic that you're trying to label me as a shill.

Only if you intend to jump into Savage the first few weeks of release. Otherwise you can wait until you've grabbed some pieces from Normal plus what you can buy with the weekly capped tomestones. By the time you can get your first weapon using the tokens from Normal (yes, 7 weeks, I know), you shouldn't need crafted gear anymore.

k shill

[Saraide]

Only if you intend to jump into Savage the first few weeks of release. Otherwise you can wait until you've grabbed some pieces from Normal plus what you can buy with the weekly capped tomestones. By the time you can get your first weapon using the tokens from Normal (yes, 7 weeks, I know), you shouldn't need crafted gear anymore.

I can only assume this is not a serious post. Everything else would make me lose braincells.

[Jeeqbit]

Imagine this scenario:
1. You love a game
2. You become a streamer / Youtuber for it
3. You are successfull
4. You quit your job
5. After years you can't really go back to your old job
6. You don't like the game anymore
7. Your audience is full of shills
8. You don't want to make those videos anymore
9. ... it's the only way to pay your rent

So you find another way to pay rent. Many content creators have been forced to because in order to do what they do, they need motivation or their mental health suffers to a point where they have no choice but to stop anyway.

As I said, some of them don't necessarily stop, but instead switch games or play a variety. This is a logical option for someone who can't go back to getting a normal job.

The fact of the matter is he is not at that point yet. Maybe he could be close to it, maybe he won't be ever be because he likes the final fantasy series and plays a variety already, but at a certain point depression slows down the content cycle and that does not seem an issue right now.

Dawntrail got a first trailer and a few infos and i'm not gleeming with enjoyment, i must be a negative nancy then.

Nor was I gleeming with enjoyment when I saw it. Actually the info we were given after made me more interested in it because we'll be visiting a mountain area.

I think that the parts we didn't see yet, such as the rest of the battle are what would have made it more interesting. But almost the entirety of it was dominated by everyone being on holiday and eating fruit, so it was hard to find anything exciting about it.

There is a difference between not being particularly excited yet and being a negative nancy that is completely negative about it when it was only just revealed. We really just need to wait and see what other details are revealed about it and see if it's exciting then.

I can sort of dig being a pirate. The idea has grown on me. I was excited for the idea of going to the new world in the past and seeing more of what the blue mage quests talk about, but after seeing the trailer, the truth is I just need a good reason why we're going in order to be excited. "Having a contest" doesn't quite cut it.

That's why we need to find out what other threats or stories are going on in this expansion before we make this judgement.

[BRVV]

So you find another way to pay rent.(...)

Totally agree with you there.

There is a difference between not being particularly excited yet and being a negative nancy that is completely negative about it when it was only just revealed. We really just need to wait and see what other details are revealed about it and see if it's exciting then.

Yup. I may get excited with new info. What resisting the copium for 7.0 is for me, is to realize that Dawntrail will be Endwalker 2, or as some (many?) feel: Shadowbringers 3. EW was very successfull, so trying to repeat that is just logical.

Don't need to spell anything out. He does still enjoy this one despite the problems he sees with it - and is open about in his videos in a constructive fashion.
But like many here, right now he doesn't feel like there is content he wants to do and so he's been playing all those other games.

Fair enough. Maybe taking a break would be better for him. I'm unsure if i should go on a break myself. There is stuff i still want to do. All of which boil down to boring grinds. I don't know if i want to actually do those things.

[Supersnow845]

^look I’m not going to argue about whether a fully developed story like 14 belongs in an MMO but more so if you are that against working with other people then why are you playing an MMO, sure “RPG first MMO second” insert random yoshi p quote but if you truly are that against dealing with other people in an MSQ setting then why not just play an actual single player FF game, there is 14 other ones in the mainline

This is one of the big things that irks me about both the way 14 is being developed and the community (yes boomer screams at clouds incoming)

Square makes this game as newbie friendly as possible. Selling it as a true mainline FF game you can play solo, then it causes people to come in who don’t actually like playing MMO’s, they want RPG’s, so the MMO aspect gets watered down and removed in favour of the casual people who came in and want this to act like basically a sandbox mainline FF game while people who want this to be an MMO get left behind

If you want to play a single player mainline FF game go play one. Don’t come into 14 then Complain about the fact that an MMO has MMO systems

[VelKallor]

^look I’m not going to argue about whether a fully developed story like 14 belongs in an MMO but more so if you are that against working with other people then why are you playing an MMO, sure “RPG first MMO second” insert random yoshi p quote but if you truly are that against dealing with other people in an MSQ setting then why not just play an actual single player FF game, there is 14 other ones in the mainline

Im not against working with other people. Never have been. I choose to do so when it suits ME.

Not anyone else.

insert random yoshi p quote

I never said it was a YoshiP quote

Don’t come into 14 then Complain about the fact that an MMO has MMO system

I never said this either.

Why are you making things up?

[BRVV]

Sure if they want to..but I guarantee we will see complaints on how one person cancelled the cutscene for all the others because "reading is hard".

I was suggestion the teamplay as an OPTION for the MSQ. You, and many others, probably most, would not use it. I know.

I never said this either.

Why are you making things up?

Guess he was talking about what other people could respond to. To get the usual quick response out of the way and comment further. As i read it, both statements were not meant to respond directly to anything you said.

[VelKallor]

As i read it, both statements were not meant to respond directly to anything you said.

This forum has a well earned reputation for inventing what was never said to advance their own narrative.

Ive linked this before but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGezDYNLIU

"Socialising in an MMO is alive and well because the CHOICE is there"

Thats the key element. Choice.

[BRVV]

This forum has a well earned reputation for inventing what was never said to advance their own narrative.

Ive linked this before but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGezDYNLIU

"Socialising in an MMO is alive and well because the CHOICE is there"

Thats the key element. Choice.

With trusts you CAN play FFXIV completely solo. The MSQ that is.
You however CAN NOT play FFXIV in a group all the time. Being solo for cutscenes, quests, solo instances...
So there is NO CHOICE