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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    All of these complaints are very common and hardly a 'single grain of sand', and yet Yoshi P seems surprised whenever one is finally brought up at a live event, despite those complaints existing for years by then. What that tells me is that they are not listening.
    It might hurt some of our fragile egos, but yes, they really are just grains of sand. This game's playerbase varies between several hundreds of thousands of players up to near 2 million as patch cycles go, and continues growing with each successive expansion (with EW having the highest population to date). Simple reality - you can take any position on any point, and you will find people somewhere that adhere to it. That doesn't make them a significant portion of the population to warrant anything.

    Case in point with healers - I readily find I have instant queues with tanks, but ~1 minute queues w/ healers. What does this tell us? More people are queuing as healers than as tanks. So, more than enough people are either straight-up enjoying healing, or at least find it sufficiently good enough that they're actively choosing to play it. If anything, it suggests tanks might warrant some kind of tweaks to make them as appealing as healers are now. Again, however we much we might desperately want the world to agree with us, the reality is that compared to the size of the playerbase, you need a truly enormous number of people to actually represent anything significant. The devs listen - and see that healers are okay right now.
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It might hurt some of our fragile egos, but yes, they really are just grains of sand.
    You're lying to yourself if you think that's even remotely true for some of the examples of complaints you brought up.
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    Koros Drakon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It might hurt some of our fragile egos
    Yes we're all aware of your ego and your minority opinions
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Yes we're all aware of your ego and your minority opinions
    as we all are of yours ^^

    personally, if I was a Dev, why would I, as a japanese speaker come to the English forums? I wouldnt.

    thats why if we are going to place blame anywhere, we should blame the community reps, because THATS THEIR ACTUAL JOB!

    if the english forums have no community reps, thats on SE to fix. its not, and should never be on the developers themselves to visit the forums. I doubt they have the bandwidth...
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It might hurt some of our fragile egos, but yes, they really are just grains of sand. This game's playerbase varies between several hundreds of thousands of players up to near 2 million as patch cycles go, and continues growing with each successive expansion (with EW having the highest population to date). Simple reality - you can take any position on any point, and you will find people somewhere that adhere to it. That doesn't make them a significant portion of the population to warrant anything.

    Case in point with healers - I readily find I have instant queues with tanks, but ~1 minute queues w/ healers. What does this tell us? More people are queuing as healers than as tanks. So, more than enough people are either straight-up enjoying healing, or at least find it sufficiently good enough that they're actively choosing to play it. If anything, it suggests tanks might warrant some kind of tweaks to make them as appealing as healers are now. Again, however we much we might desperately want the world to agree with us, the reality is that compared to the size of the playerbase, you need a truly enormous number of people to actually represent anything significant. The devs listen - and see that healers are okay right now.
    Let’s ignore that every metric of job satisfaction and level of play relative to the other jobs crashed when they changed healers in ShB and even with a new job this expansion that was billed as being build for modern healing rather than lobotomising an old job healers still are overall the least played job and most often the ones with the shortest queues
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-24-2023 at 08:06 AM.