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    Quote Originally Posted by FlutterYuu View Post
    I hope I don't sound preachy but I think there are too many people who think the Devs don't listen.
    They do listen, but the question is where they listen and what they listen to. The argument is they don't pay much attention to the English forums.

    They used to listen to things about job complexity and uniqueness, but they admitted themselves in a live letter in the last few years that they listen to veteran players too much when the majority of people are casual (forums mostly contain veteran players, so that means they listen to the forums too much). At that time you could already see the trend of greater focus on casual players who haven't taken the time to understand abilities very well.

    You have to understand that the community used to be far smaller - 300,000 active characters. Now we are well over a million actively subscribed at any given time.

    A larger community means more voices. With such a cacophony of voices in the community now, it is much harder to please everyone as well so they have to try harder to identify feedback amongst all the voices.

    Maybe changes aren't happening as fast as we'd like them to.
    Development takes months or years. The complaints on these forums are mostly saying things that have been an issue for years and are complaints that were being provided years ago as well. They have had time to take it on board.

    But I also know that a lot of our content is planned and made ahead of time.
    Did you come here from MrHappy's video?

    the 2 minute meta won't be fixed until then either as pretty much all of the Endwalker Content is made with the 2 minute buff window in mind.
    Nobody is saying fix it right now. They know it can't be. They are saying for 7.0. But they already committed to it by changing PLD. What are they going to do, change PLD back suddenly?

    I'm sure the FFXIV Devs are reading these forums
    Even though they are Japanese and we write in English?
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They do listen, but the question is where they listen and what they listen to. The argument is they don't pay much attention to the English forums.

    They used to listen to things about job complexity and uniqueness, but they admitted themselves in a live letter in the last few years that they listen to veteran players too much when the majority of people are casual (forums mostly contain veteran players, so that means they listen to the forums too much). At that time you could already see the trend of greater focus on casual players who haven't taken the time to understand abilities very well.

    You have to understand that the community used to be far smaller - 300,000 active characters. Now we are well over a million actively subscribed at any given time.

    A larger community means more voices. With such a cacophony of voices in the community now, it is much harder to please everyone as well so they have to try harder to identify feedback amongst all the voices.

    Development takes months or years. The complaints on these forums are mostly saying things that have been an issue for years and are complaints that were being provided years ago as well. They have had time to take it on board.

    Did you come here from MrHappy's video?

    Nobody is saying fix it right now. They know it can't be. They are saying for 7.0. But they already committed to it by changing PLD. What are they going to do, change PLD back suddenly?

    Even though they are Japanese and we write in English?
    I.. I don't know what to say to this. You just commented about MrHappy like it was nothing. I'm just kind of taken back. Like you know they do English interviews right? Like they have translators? Honestly speaking why would they have an English forums if they had no plans on reading them? Like they've posted in English Forums before its not like its never happened. I get being frustrated but this is on a whole other level, friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlutterYuu View Post
    You just commented about MrHappy like it was nothing.
    I have a lot of respect for MrHappy because he understands the game like I do and he doesn't have hot takes like most of the community. They are fair and balanced and that's what I prefer.

    But the majority of people watching his videos probably don't visit these forums, so when I see a relative new poster around here using talking points from recent youtube videos I wonder if that's what prompted them to post.

    Like you know they do English interviews right? Like they have translators?
    Yes, but do you honestly think they are going to translate most of the garbage on the English forums? The only thing I remember is that they translate the 10 most popular topics. They should just use Google translate.

    I get being frustrated but this is on a whole other level, friend.
    I'm not the least bit frustrated. I'm just being honest with you. It's especially important to be honest with someone who seems new around here, so that they understand the forums better. Most of us have been around here for years. All the people who were like you, became like the people replying to you now.

    You should know that I'm one of the most positive people on these forums. That should tell you a lot. I try to be fair and defend the developers, whilst also being fair if something is an issue.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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