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    The Devs Listen to Us

    I hope I don't sound preachy but I think there are too many people who think the Devs don't listen. I'm not a very important person but I do think we need to remind ourselves that the FFXIV Dev Team listen to us, they always have.

    Maybe changes aren't happening as fast as we'd like them to. I do admit the Healers have been in a bad place for over a year. AST is the worst example of this, but they all have their issues. V&C Dungeons are also lackluster and many people run them once and leave.

    But I also know that a lot of our content is planned and made ahead of time. It's easy to make a change in direction when the car is moving at 20 mph but much more difficult when the car is moving at 200 mph.

    With FFXIV leaving PS4 next expansion, they're upgrading graphics and improving the game under the hood for 7.0. Unfortunately that means that a lot of our issues won't be solved.

    I think there should be a Daily V&C Roulette. Too keep that part of the game active. I don't know how fast they could make a change like this, I'm no game dev after all. But it could be a quick fix as they make the rewards of V&C Dungeons better.

    Unfortunately Healers won't be fixed until 7.0 at the very least. Also the 2 minute meta won't be fixed until then either as pretty much all of the Endwalker Content is made with the 2 minute buff window in mind.

    All we can do as a community is voice our displeasure. I'm sure the FFXIV Devs are reading these forums and I know it must be such a drag to read the same posts again and again. But I'm sure they're going to read these posts.

    I'm not saying don't make your voices known. In fact make more posts. Brainstorm how they can change things for the better.

    I think they shouldn't make the game so rigid after an Expansion. Like nothing will change with the main story but they shouldn't feel as though they should keep a bad change in because it will break the balance of the game. I mean it's happened before. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a little imbalance as long as all jobs can clear content.

    As a community we should make sure not to exclude "non meta" jobs from high level content if it can be done with those jobs. I think maybe we scared them by doing such things; though those things I know are far and few in-between in my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, but I know that there is a reason why they can't make changes as fast as they might have used to.Also FFXVI is out so hopefully, the man power to make that game returns to FFXIV.

    I know the Devs are listening. We can't give up hope and assume that they aren't listening. It's feels bad now but changes are coming. How do I know? It's happened before. The Devs read the forums they just can't reply for some reason. Maybe for their mental health, maybe for corporate reasons. Whatever the reason I know that they're reading our posts and will change what needs to be changed.
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    You know what? I think they do listen, but they really don't communicate back very well, so we don't know if they know about some of the stuff people talk about on larger scales.

    That's something I wish they somewhat stole from Bungie. I'd like if there was like a weekly or bi-weekly dev blog post with stuff like...

    An update with Viera and Hroth Hats: Hello, something something progress, here have two example pictures, something something we're trying to make it for 7.1 and we'll post three more examples of gear next week something something, here's some of the issues we find something something the ears in this piece are separate, and here they aren't something something, that's our update!

    Like... those were very broad strokes, but I think the issue right now is that even if a feature is coming, we don't hear about it for months, or years. We don't know what they're paying attention to and what they aren't. Someone also suggested this a while ago, but they should very much send e.mail surveys to people like this or something:

    What's your Main Class
    - Healer
    - DPS
    - Tank

    Do you think Healers should...
    - Have a longer damage rotation
    - Be healing more often
    - Are fine as they are now

    And stuff like that, so they can get concise answers to specific stuff they'd like to get feedback on.
    As is, I think it's just a bit frustrating how uncommunicative the whole thing feels.

    So yeah, I think they do listen, but I don't know to what specifically and if they're gonna do something about it. Right now it's like... if it's in the Live Letter we know they did notice, and if not.. we don't know.

    My two cents.
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    I do wish they did communicate better. You know I don't exactly remember if they've always been this way to be honest. Maybe someone who's been on the forums since legacy can shed some light on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlutterYuu View Post
    I do wish they did communicate better. You know I don't exactly remember if they've always been this way to be honest. Maybe someone who's been on the forums since legacy can shed some light on this.
    Back in 2015-2016, when PvP was at a nadir of participation, literally Naoki Yoshida himself showed up to discuss concerns and respond to threads on the PvP forums, and address various ideas people had for improving the design.

    Can you imagine that happening today?

    Literally Yoshida interacting directly with concerns on the forums?

    Dude has checked out and sailed for brighter seas a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    Back in 2015-2016, when PvP was at a nadir of participation, literally Naoki Yoshida himself showed up to discuss concerns and respond to threads on the PvP forums, and address various ideas people had for improving the design.

    Can you imagine that happening today?

    Literally Yoshida interacting directly with concerns on the forums?

    Dude has checked out and sailed for brighter seas a long time ago.
    I don't think so. He's still the director of FFXIV, and if he truly wanted to he'd leave the position. I don't think he'd hold onto a position he didn't want anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlutterYuu View Post
    I don't think so. He's still the director of FFXIV, and if he truly wanted to he'd leave the position. I don't think he'd hold onto a position he didn't want anymore.
    1) They're not saying that he doesn't want the position anymore, just that he's "checked out." Checking out usually means that his focus is elsewhere, to put it as mildly and politely as possible.
    2) This is his job. He's not going to just stop taking a paycheck because "he doesn't feel like doing it anymore." He may be in a very good position to do so, but more money means more rings for his fingers and toes, and why would he leave a position where he's constantly earning accolades (which probably also come with bonuses and company-granted cash prizes) on behalf of his teams and things he barely has a hand in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    An update with Viera and Hroth Hats:
    Have they ever actually said they would work on hats for either? Last I heard was when they released saying they would have no hats, but some devs worked off the clock to get a few working. Nothing since then, so I was under the impression it would never happen. Like they said.

    So did they change their minds, or is it still "Here's two races you all begged for, but no hats."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    Have they ever actually said they would work on hats for either? Last I heard was when they released saying they would have no hats, but some devs worked off the clock to get a few working. Nothing since then, so I was under the impression it would never happen. Like they said.

    So did they change their minds, or is it still "Here's two races you all begged for, but no hats."
    I'm sorry, but you missed the point entirely. All I did was provide a random (very broad) example of a would-be dev blog update every week or every two weeks. The hat thing was just the first random thing that came to mind, not a real example of what they'd actually talk about. The point was that they should talk to us more often, not if they're gonna add Viera/Hroth hats or not.
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    No they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    No they don't.
    I appreciate that your keep the same consistent attitude in every post you make. I really enjoy your negativity man. Keep it up!
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