Skill trees and Alternate Advancement

[DeadRiser]

Its not thick its weighing the positive vs positives and going for the better of the 2. If I have to go on any of those classes to win at Ifrit then I'm getting the hell away from that group.

Then I'm happy for you. Meanwhile, I'll be helping the new people learn these fights to better themselves for future content. Quit being a troll. You know everything I'm saying is true.

[Krausus]

Then I'm happy for you. Meanwhile, I'll be helping the new people learn these fights to better themselves for future content. Quit being a troll. You know everything I'm saying is true.

No you're not, all you're teaching them is to do Ifrit on classes instead of jobs like it should be done. Go on jobs and teach them to do it right and that is relying on 1 to 2 healers. It will make them way way better players.

[Firon]

No you're not, all you're teaching them is to do Ifrit on classes instead of jobs like it should be done. Go on jobs and teach them to do it right and that is relying on 1 to 2 healers. It will make them way way better players.

You must have been a bad player for using classes before jobs came out learning the fight on class or job will make you better.

you might be able to sign up solo but it is designed around doing it with multiple people which is why you need the extra healing/buffs to survive

That's whole point i was saying PGL IS GOOD FOR SOLO!!!!!! I even use it for fighting lvl 54 mobs cause they drop some of the items i sell!!!!

[Krausus]

You must have been a bad player for using classes before jobs came out learning the fight on class or job will make you better.

lol you mad brah?

[Krausus]

That's whole point i was saying PGL IS GOOD FOR SOLO!!!!!! I even use it for fighting lvl 54 mobs cause they drop some of the items i sell!!!!

and my point is if you are doing solo content MNK is better if you are doing group content with a group MNK is better. You throw in pgl is better because I can do content made for a group with PGL because I can have more heals and buffs to make up for my lack of survivability (which you are supposed to have when facing group content solo). I wasn't arguing any of that. Of course you are going to do better vs them odds with more heals and buffs but like I said before no reason to go PGL for solo content.

[Firon]

and my point is if you are doing solo content MNK is better if you are doing group content with a group MNK is better. You throw in pgl is better because I can do content made for a group with PGL because I can have more heals and buffs to make up for my lack of survivability (which you are supposed to have when facing group content solo). I wasn't arguing any of that. Of course you are going to do better vs them odds with more heals and buffs but like I said before no reason to go PGL for solo content.

That made no fkin sense.

[IStolzI]

I know ppl hate hearing XI but I would like to see a return of the merit system in the bonus point system we have now. It was such an awesome concept, in my opinion. What I would like to see is when there are multiple jobs per class, you can earn bonus points for the class that can be spent on one of the jobs.

For example say you get max 10 bonus points for GLA. You can spend them to crank up PLD abilities or hypothetically DRK abilities. So while You can play any class, at the end you will pick a job to specialize in per class. Of course have the option to reroll, but no on the fly or without penalty.

[DeadRiser]

No you're not, all you're teaching them is to do Ifrit on classes instead of jobs like it should be done. Go on jobs and teach them to do it right and that is relying on 1 to 2 healers. It will make them way way better players.

You just ignore everything I say and this is the last comment I reply with.

SH*T HAPPENS. WHM's die on accident sometimes or both healers get an eruption under them. I can back up heal for cases like that.

Stoneskin isn't up for either whm. I can AoE SS for the dd's.

Someone dies, I can raise while the healers focus on healing.

Somehting happens and one nail is still up, being as a MRD having a lot of HP and cures/raises. I will survive hellfire and heal/raise myself or others.

I'm not teaching them to play as a class, I'm helping them complete Ifrit multiple times so they can complete content themselves. But content can be done on with a mix of jobs and classes. It's not a bad thing to still play as a class.