Skill trees and Alternate Advancement

[DeadRiser]

I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that. You didnt say you where going MRD for for more damage skills you said you where going MRD for backup support cure and raise dont change your mind now. Randoms or not if you have to go on classes then you shouldn't be doing Ifrit.

Way to take everything I said out of context. Have you ever heard of "sh*t happens"? When a whm just so happens to get hit by an eruption and die, or the healers are running away from eruptions, having extra support is a great things. That's what classes are for.

Please don't assume that I'm bad at Ifrit. It has NOTHING to do with my skill. I've gotten 6/7 weapons and have only been doing it for fun now. When you do it with NEWER people that aren't used to Ifrit, I rather survivability and support. I never changed my "mind", so please get this bullsh*t out of your mind.

[Krausus]

Way to take everything I said out of context. Have you ever heard of "sh*t happens"? When a whm just so happens to get hit by an eruption and die, or the healers are running away from eruptions, having extra support is a great things. That's what classes are for.

Please don't assume that I'm bad at Ifrit. It has NOTHING to do with my skill. I've gotten 6/7 weapons and have only been doing it for fun now. When you do it with NEWER people that aren't used to Ifrit, I rather survivability and support. I never changed my "mind", so please get this bullsh*t out of your mind.

I didn't say YOU where bad I said your party was bad.

[DeadRiser]

I didn't say YOU where bad I said your party was bad.

"I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that"

Lol there is quite a lot of "you's" in there. Maybe you should pay attention to what you are typing. And you still didn't read what I put. Keep in mind that this is all with random people, not my LS's or friends. A lot of people that still do Ifrit are fairly new to it. Call them bad all you want, you were once that bad at Ifrit too.

Ppl just have this stupid tick in their head that classes can't be used anymore

Lol Everything except CNJ is still viable as a class. CNJ is just gimping yourself because you get invited to heal, not dps.

[Krausus]

"I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that"

Lol there is quite a lot of "you's" in there. Maybe you should pay attention to what you are typing. And you still didn't read what I put. Keep in mind that this is all with random people, not my LS's or friends. A lot of people that still do Ifrit are fairly new to it. Call them bad all you want, you were once that bad at Ifrit too.



Lol Everything except CNJ is still viable as a class. CNJ is just gimping yourself because you get invited to heal, not dps.

why the hell would you use LNC over DRG, or MNK over PGL, or BLM over THM

[DeadRiser]

Ok really. We just went through this. Extra support/health/raise... I mean come on dude. You can't be that thick.

[Krausus]

Ok really. We just went through this. Extra support/health/raise... I mean come on dude. You can't be that thick.

Its not thick its weighing the positive vs positives and going for the better of the 2. If I have to go on any of those classes to win at Ifrit then I'm getting the hell away from that group.

[DeadRiser]

Its not thick its weighing the positive vs positives and going for the better of the 2. If I have to go on any of those classes to win at Ifrit then I'm getting the hell away from that group.

Then I'm happy for you. Meanwhile, I'll be helping the new people learn these fights to better themselves for future content. Quit being a troll. You know everything I'm saying is true.

[Firon]

Way to take everything I said out of context. Have you ever heard of "sh*t happens"? When a whm just so happens to get hit by an eruption and die, or the healers are running away from eruptions, having extra support is a great things. That's what classes are for.

Please don't assume that I'm bad at Ifrit. It has NOTHING to do with my skill. I've gotten 6/7 weapons and have only been doing it for fun now. When you do it with NEWER people that aren't used to Ifrit, I rather survivability and support. I never changed my "mind", so please get this bullsh*t out of your mind.

Ppl just have this stupid tick in their head that classes can't be used anymore

[Krausus]

Ppl just have this stupid tick in their head that classes can't be used anymore

Im not saying classes can't be used anymore what I'm saying is classes shouldn't be NEEDED to kill Ifrit. I would beg to differ though that some class really should not be used anymore like LNC and PGL. I certainly see why MRD (dps), ARC (dps) are still good to use for certain situations and that's because they lack access to LNC abilities and ARC lacks access to LNC and PGL abilities.

[Firon]

Im not saying classes can't be used anymore what I'm saying is classes shouldn't be NEEDED to kill Ifrit. I would beg to differ though that some class really should not be used anymore like LNC and PGL. I certainly see why MRD (dps), ARC (dps) are still good to use for certain situations and that's because they lack access to LNC abilities and ARC lacks access to LNC and PGL abilities.

I use pgl for solo what they intended it for i also use it when duoing mnk hits hard but also gets hit to hard.

Vengeance and Mighty strikes are DD abilities.

LOL WTF
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