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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    i love how the complaining shifted from
    "every noob can have a relic, its just dumb luck, where is the skill!?!"
    to
    "relic ifrit is far too hard T.T make weapons even better"

    (on the vid, god i want so see the players faces when all those nails broke thru the ground the first time ^~^)
    Let me correct you here, I never once said Relic Ifrit was too hard. I did say relic questline just may not be worth the reward in the long run. To coin the phrase, the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    Let me correct you here, I never once said Relic Ifrit was too hard. I did say relic questline just may not be worth the reward in the long run. To coin the phrase, the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
    which means "it is too hard for the weapons with their current stats", its the same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    which means "it is too hard for the weapons with their current stats", its the same thing
    People like you heh. Again, the question is posed "Should relec stats be tweeked?" "Is this questline worth it?"
    You fail to offer anything close to an answer for these questions, rather just spew words about how you love how people think stuff is easy mode/too hard/whatever your problem for the day is.

    Get off your soap box bud, you're in the wrong thread apparently, because your rants do not apply.

    Back on track, the nails video is sick, and it makes me shiver a little seeing the 9999 damage to all. Yikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    People like you heh. Again, the question is posed "Should relec stats be tweeked?" "Is this questline worth it?"
    You fail to offer anything close to an answer for these questions, rather just spew words about how you love how people think stuff is easy mode/too hard/whatever your problem for the day is.

    Get off your soap box bud, you're in the wrong thread apparently, because your rants do not apply.

    Back on track, the nails video is sick, and it makes me shiver a little seeing the 9999 damage to all. Yikes!
    Ok here is my answer then, NO
    im pretty tired that people feel the need to start a change petition for every single damn thing the devs put out.
    and since we are honest to each other, here is my honest opinion:
    get over your entitlement "bud"
    what you get is what you get, if its not "worth it" enough for your taste, too bad

    (and the question was not "are the weapons too weak compared to others?" it was "are the weapons stats high enough to justify such a hard fight?" my answer was just for that)
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    Last edited by Yumi_Hibiki; 06-27-2012 at 08:46 PM.

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    If everyone has 10,000 HP you can use Benediction and survive ^.^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    If everyone has 10,000 HP you can use Benediction and survive ^.^
    Pentameld Bloodthirst onto everything!
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NFMA4fP8d8&feature=youtu.be

    If I'm going to put myself through this hell, maybe.... just maybe I'm thinking the relics should be a little bit more awesome you feel me?
    All I can do when I see that, is think... Meh if only it was that lag free for me.

    But no that's worth a getting an iconic weapon, useful or not, it looks fun and challenging.
    Unlike a specific pure luck part the quest i wont mention again.
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    I cant help but think this battle is revenge from the guys who designed the Ifrit, Moogle and Garuda battles and saw their designs wrecked after just a few hours. I know Garuda had a different approach with the competition thing on how long did we think it would take before it was felled. But still, the creators of these things had to be thinking... damnit man, we spent months designing this and they just steamroll through everything in a few hours. Payback time bitchessss!
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    Before you judge OP, let's think about this objectively:

    For MNK:

    Ifrit's Claws to Garuda's Talons = 1.38 DPS upgrade. Which is pretty fair, for a Primal fight which isn't very hard and considering it doesn't take much time to get either weapon if you just farm for the weapon exchange item.

    Garuda's Talons to Sphairai = 0.98 DPS upgrade. In order to get this upgrade you need to spend millions of gil getting a double meld, weeks farming Hamlet for seals, you need to speed run <17 mins in both AV/CC 3 times, do a behest, caravan, faction leve, get 999 beastcoins (or 500/99 depending on which you choose), kill Ifrit on Extreme mode, and kill Garuda.

    Doesn't seem quite right does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    Before you judge OP, let's think about this objectively:

    For MNK:

    Ifrit's Claws to Garuda's Talons = 1.38 DPS upgrade. Which is pretty fair, for a Primal fight which isn't very hard and considering it doesn't take much time to get either weapon if you just farm for the weapon exchange item.

    Garuda's Talons to Sphairai = 0.98 DPS upgrade. In order to get this upgrade you need to spend millions of gil getting a double meld, weeks farming Hamlet for seals, you need to speed run <17 mins in both AV/CC 3 times, do a behest, caravan, faction leve, get 999 beastcoins (or 500/99 depending on which you choose), kill Ifrit on Extreme mode, and kill Garuda.

    Doesn't seem quite right does it?
    Why judge me at all lol?
    I asked a few questions, I did not claim anything to be fact... or even tell any mean spirited mama jokes!

    Just questions is all.
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