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    I agree Criterion needs better incentives and rewards, but I personally do not believe that attaching the relic to it is the solution. Nor would it give it the longevity it deserves. Putting relic behind Criterion simply creates an Eureka/Bozja problem where post expansion, it's difficult to retroactively find people to queue for the content. When I think of longevity, I'm thinking far into the next expansion as well. Traditionally, with the main exception of Eureka. Relics usually rely on reviving old content in some fashion. For example, you could do Bozja FATEs, or you could do Heavenward FATEs and Crystal Tower. Between the two, the old content was the faster of the two to farm. Plus, some of the routes taken in Criterion is dependent on your party and everyone needs different routes. As much as I believe Criterion does need better rewards, I cannot in good faith suggest it to be tied to the relic.
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    Last edited by Nav_Fae; 07-20-2023 at 11:55 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I agree Criterion needs better incentives and rewards, but I personally do not believe that attaching the relic to it is the solution. Nor would it give it the longevity it deserves. Putting relic behind Criterion simply creates an Eureka/Bozja problem where post expansion, it's difficult to retroactively find people to queue for the content. When I think of longevity, I'm thinking far into the next expansion as well. Traditionally, with the main exception of Eureka. Relics usually rely on reviving old content in some fashion. For example, you could do Bozja FATEs, or you could do Heavenward FATEs and Crystal Tower. Between the two, the old content was the faster of the two to farm. Plus, some of the routes taken in Criterion is dependent on your party and everyone needs different routes. As much as I believe Criterion does need better rewards, I cannot in good faith suggest it to be tied to the relic.
    The routes you are referring to is Variant Dungeon. Criterion is the linear, higher difficulty one so there is no "lets go X" argument other than what mob to attack first, which absolutely should deserve better rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    The routes you are referring to is Variant Dungeon. Criterion is the linear, higher difficulty one so there is no "lets go X" argument other than what mob to attack first, which absolutely should deserve better rewards.
    Ah my mistake on that bullet. But my point remains the same that they shouldn't be tied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    My favorite part of all these theatrics is that even when people know it's 2 alts arguing with each other, you still see about a 50/50 split of Likes between one post or the other.

    The entire world, united together under the banner of, "I don't care, as long as the sockpuppet is saying something I agree with!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Ah my mistake on that bullet. But my point remains the same that they shouldn't be tied.
    Attaching the relic to variant dungeons would be fine since those can be done solo and would still be just as easily attainable in the future.
    This wouldn't solve the issue of Criterion and Criterion savage having terrible rewards however.
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