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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I've stopped bothering with keeping up on crafting because the prices crater usually within the week. So why bother going through the work to craft everything when you can just wait a week and buy it for a pittance.

    It's nice having them leveled to repair and meld my own stuff, but that's about it.
    4 star food. 4 star alkahests. 4 star tinctures. 4 star housing items .

    I can craft it ALL, which means I am NOT wasting gil on stuff I can make for myself.

    I just made 30 HQ dex tinctures for a friend, which would have cost her a MINT on the MB. She is progging savage, you should have seen her face when I handed her free food and tinctures. I can also make my own ingredients / components for these items.

    i fail to see the benefit in spending gil on stuff you can make for yourself.

    Crafters are self sufficient, which is a HUGE plus as you arent paying through the nose for overpriced MB items. Even on Kujata the gear prices for Diadochos are still within the 100k mark per item, so a full set will set you back close to one million gil for one job gearset ALONE.

    Then theres the fact that crafting also provides you with materia and scrips, so you can pentameld your own crafter gear, buy food ingredients , thats another expense you no longer have. I pentamelded and it cost me, yes, but the vast majority was materia I already had in stock and ready to go.

    Pentamelding is expensive, granted, but its a long term investment which has already proved its worth and paid for itself long since.

    So: are the relics worth the time and effort? Hell yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    4 star food. 4 star alkahests. 4 star tinctures. 4 star housing items .

    I can craft it ALL, which means I am NOT wasting gil on stuff I can make for myself.

    I just made 30 HQ dex tinctures for a friend, which would have cost her a MINT on the MB. She is progging savage, you should have seen her face when I handed her free food and tinctures. I can also make my own ingredients / components for these items.

    i fail to see the benefit in spending gil on stuff you can make for yourself.

    Crafters are self sufficient, which is a HUGE plus as you arent paying through the nose for overpriced MB items. Even on Kujata the gear prices for Diadochos are still within the 100k mark per item, so a full set will set you back close to one million gil for one job gearset ALONE.

    Then theres the fact that crafting also provides you with materia and scrips, so you can pentameld your own crafter gear, buy food ingredients , thats another expense you no longer have. I pentamelded and it cost me, yes, but the vast majority was materia I already had in stock and ready to go.

    Pentamelding is expensive, granted, but its a long term investment which has already proved its worth and paid for itself long since.

    So: are the relics worth the time and effort? Hell yes.
    This guy seriously bragging about modern EW pentamelding LMFAO

    Imagine thinking 100k is high or that 1 million gil is a lot

    ShB zoomers rofl

    I just made 30 HQ dex tinctures for a friend, which would have cost her a MINT (60k gil) on the MB... you should have seen her face when I handed her free food and tinctures
    holy hell the more i read this the funnier it gets, holy

    i am now actually convinced this is some deep state bait alt, no one says they're 61 proudly with a straight face or says this kind of shit (60k gil charity being shocking to a friend) lmao
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    Last edited by Koros; 07-21-2023 at 11:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    (60k gil charity being shocking to a friend) lmao
    I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-21-2023 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    4 star food. 4 star alkahests. 4 star tinctures. 4 star housing items .

    I can craft it ALL, which means I am NOT wasting gil on stuff I can make for myself.

    I just made 30 HQ dex tinctures for a friend, which would have cost her a MINT on the MB. She is progging savage, you should have seen her face when I handed her free food and tinctures. I can also make my own ingredients / components for these items.

    i fail to see the benefit in spending gil on stuff you can make for yourself.

    Crafters are self sufficient, which is a HUGE plus as you arent paying through the nose for overpriced MB items. Even on Kujata the gear prices for Diadochos are still within the 100k mark per item, so a full set will set you back close to one million gil for one job gearset ALONE.

    Then theres the fact that crafting also provides you with materia and scrips, so you can pentameld your own crafter gear, buy food ingredients , thats another expense you no longer have. I pentamelded and it cost me, yes, but the vast majority was materia I already had in stock and ready to go.

    Pentamelding is expensive, granted, but its a long term investment which has already proved its worth and paid for itself long since.

    So: are the relics worth the time and effort? Hell yes.
    The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point where you can comfortably make end game consumables. Between the opportunity cost of tome and unspoiled node materials, materia, money spent on crafting food, its expensive. I wonder, does getting the relic tool require near pentamelded equipment to actually achieve? I bet it does, not that I've checked.

    I have other ways to make gil that don't need crafting, so I just do a little of that now and then and I'm solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point where you can comfortably make end game consumables. Between the opportunity cost of tome and unspoiled node materials, materia, money spent on crafting food, its expensive. I wonder, does getting the relic tool require near pentamelded equipment to actually achieve? I bet it does, not that I've checked.

    I have other ways to make gil that don't need crafting, so I just do a little of that now and then and I'm solid.
    You can easily level all crafting jobs using leves to 50, then deliveries every week plus leves as they pop, then finally the crafting quest lines in later expac towns and beast tribes.

    It is only expensive if you are in a rush. Heck, if you really don’t care you can actually make a lot of money leveling crafting.

    As with most things in life, it’s a function of time and money. Faster will (almost) always be more expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    You can easily level all crafting jobs using leves to 50, then deliveries every week plus leves as they pop, then finally the crafting quest lines in later expac towns and beast tribes.

    It is only expensive if you are in a rush. Heck, if you really don’t care you can actually make a lot of money leveling crafting.

    As with most things in life, it’s a function of time and money. Faster will (almost) always be more expensive.
    I didn't mean leveling. I meant getting the gear needed to do high end crafts, not to mention melding that gear. I've wasted tons of money on failed melds, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I didn't mean leveling. I meant getting the gear needed to do high end crafts, not to mention melding that gear. I've wasted tons of money on failed melds, personally.
    Gotcha; that's kinda more of the same though. The gear creep eventually makes all the recipes trivial to make, so it just boils down to whether you NEED the crafted item here-and-now or if you can just wait a bit.

    If you're leveling strictly to have the bleeding edge stuff for raids, etc then agreed- not worth your time/effort at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Gotcha; that's kinda more of the same though. The gear creep eventually makes all the recipes trivial to make, so it just boils down to whether you NEED the crafted item here-and-now or if you can just wait a bit.

    If you're leveling strictly to have the bleeding edge stuff for raids, etc then agreed- not worth your time/effort at all.
    But when the stuff becomes trivial to make, it also becomes trivial to just buy off the marketboard. Which was my original point, there's no reason to bother with crafting other then the convenience of self repair and self meld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    But when the stuff becomes trivial to make, it also becomes trivial to just buy off the marketboard. Which was my original point, there's no reason to bother with crafting other then the convenience of self repair and self meld.
    This is true; the only reason I personally bother with crafting is the convenience of self repair.
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