Time to Quit

[Renalt]

Unless you find this fun Renathras ( in which case keep it up! ) you should save your sanity.

You're playing chess against pigeons that will strut around the board, crap on it, knock over a pawn by accident, and declare themselves the winner.

[Deo14]

lots of words, not a lot of things

I ain't reading that, learn to write shorter stuff, it's getting tiring. Such essays are justified only if they actually have something in them. But your essays have too little meat, for how long they are. Everyone can write long stuff, the best of us can get the same idea across while using minimum amount of words.

But if I were to guess what are you ranting about now, it's because of your deranged napkin calculations that you're trying to defend. Reason why your 0.5% - 1% is absolutely inane is because there is always about 20K active Mare users at any given time. You were calculating some ffxivcensus/luckybanchoo data, which are users logging once daily or similar metrics, not active users at any given time..

So you mixed Mare's at any given time with your daily login and that's why you ended up with such a nonsense. There really isn't 2-4M players at any given time in this game. And as someone else already pointed out, Mare users make 14% of population, so you could, you know, just ask him for source, just like he offered? Preferably with simple message, nobody is reading your way too long rants.

[Koros]

Unless you find this fun Renathras ( in which case keep it up! ) you should save your sanity.

You're playing chess against pigeons that will strut around the board, crap on it, knock over a pawn by accident, and declare themselves the winner.

this guy's actually getting depressed because of the forums

i actually feel kinda bad now

[caffe_macchiato]

It might be an "interesting experiment", but no sane company CEO is going to approve such a move. The liability lawsuits would cripple any game company involved in such stupidity.

That's odd. Since when is it illegal to not allow modding? Are you telling me that WoW is also banned in Japan? Are you telling me that FFXIV's own TOS opens them up to lawsuits? Are you telling me there's no way they can find mod users?

[Lauront]

The LB survey isn't even once daily - it's unique character logins at least once in the survey period (usually spanning 2-4 months) subject to its specified requirements. That's it. It's quite a generous way of gauging the number of players.

[Koros]

misinformation

LOL this is the guy that said BLM can't slidecast, talking about misinformation

[Iscah]

The thing is, housing is a core component of the game to my way of thinking. You can have the coolest game in the world, but if you neglect an essential core component so that maybe 20% of the population or less even get to participate [...] As nice as the whole thing looks, that is still going to leave 80+% of the guests with a pretty bad taste in their mouth.

The thing with your example, even if we assume the 20% is accurate, is that not everyone who comes to the game is concerned about housing.

There are enough people outside the 20% who want housing and can't get it, that they are frustrated by the current system. That is undeniably true. But it doesn't mean that every player feels the same way.

I had a house on my old server before I moved to Materia. It was fun to put together, but that was prettymuch it. Once it was done, it was nice to go into, like looking back at an artwork I'd done – but I also didn't feel like there was anything to actually do with it once it was done. I couldn't bring it cross-server with me and I'm not feeling like I want to do it over again.

Other people aren't going to want to do it at all, or they'll find that a private chamber in their FC house is enough.

In short, maybe only 20% can get a house, but that doesn't mean the whole remaining 80% are wanting one. It's certainly not what I expect out of a fantasy RPG, which is what the game is primarily marketed as.

[Koros]

YOU are complaining about nitpicking technicalities? But that's 50% of your arguments! Other half is complaining that other party is being mean to you.

ur actually being really mean to ben shapiro, he's gonna start crying

[Deo14]

The thing with your example, even if we assume the 20% is accurate, is that not everyone who comes to the game is concerned about housing.

There are enough people outside the 20% who want housing and can't get it, that they are frustrated by the current system. That is undeniably true. But it doesn't mean that every player feels the same way.

I had a house on my old server before I moved to Materia. It was fun to put together, but that was prettymuch it. Once it was done, it was nice to go into, like looking back at an artwork I'd done – but I also didn't feel like there was anything to actually do with it once it was done. I couldn't bring it cross-server with me and I'm not feeling like I want to do it over again.

Other people aren't going to want to do it at all, or they'll find that a private chamber in their FC house is enough.

In short, maybe only 20% can get a house, but that doesn't mean the whole remaining 80% are wanting one. It's certainly not what I expect out of a fantasy RPG, which is what the game is primarily marketed as.

When it comes to housing, there is serious problem with scarcity-induced demand, and I'm personally guilty of that. I wasn't interested in housing back then, but since I've heard how hard it is to get one, I jumped to new EU server when I had the opportunity and bought nice M house in Mist. I wasn't really doing much with it, since I wasn't really interested in housing at that time. So there are people that are interested in housing, but they cannot get one, yet there are plenty of people with houses that do not use them, but don't want to lose them either, just in case they'll like in it future or because they don't want to lose something so valuable.

[Jojoya]

That's odd. Since when is it illegal to not allow modding? Are you telling me that WoW is also banned in Japan? Are you telling me that FFXIV's own TOS opens them up to lawsuits? Are you telling me there's no way they can find mod users?

There's a big difference between detecting use of mods and installing software to a player client that would block those mods from launching.

They can detect if they choose to. They've stated that they're not interested in doing so for now because of privacy issues.

Blocking the mod from launching could leave them tied up in the courts for years and it probably would not end in their favor. They have no legal right to interfere in user agreements between other parties even if one party is violating their agreement with SE by using of the mod. Not even Blizzard attempts to block unauthorized mods from launching and their legal team dwarfs anything SE could afford to field.

Detect then ban? Yes. Block? No.