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[Deo14]

You...can't be serious, can you?

1) There are no numbers with "what the FFXIV tag brings up on Twitter". "a lot"? How many? 1? 50? 500? 1,000? 1,000,000? How is this "data"?
2) "anecdote is not data".
3) Can you offer evidence that the majority of FFXIV's playerbase is even on Twitter?
4) Can you show the number of them that post on Twitter?
5) Can you show the number posting "Second Life" on Twitter, and what percentage that is of the playerbase?
6) Twitter, in general, represents only a small segment of society, and studies have shown that around 80-90% of posts are made by only around 2% of Twitter users to begin with. Did you know that?

No?

Then that's not data. That's not useful to a discussion. "A few hundred" - in a game played by between 1 million and 3 million people? 100 is 0.01% of 1,000,000. 500 is 0.05%. You need 10,000 to get to even 1% of the playerbase. Can you find 10,000 individual FFXIV posters on Twitter all posting Second Life topics? I doubt you can. And even if you could, that would be at best 1% of the playerbase, hardly a majority. And that's if we lowball the playerbase at 1 million instead of 2 million or 3 million (I think around 1.7-1.8 million is the general ballpark of active player by various estimates.)

In short, you contest data with "look at Twitter".

That's like contesting serious policy debate with "Read the President's Twitter rage takes".

Just some quick maff. FFXIV has supposedly roughly 1.3M of active players daily. GW2 has about 3x less than that (it's a little bit more complex than that, since GW2 doesn't have such an insane drop off in patches like FFXIV does). None the less, GW2 has in game a number of currently logged in players. This number at any given time is over 100K.

GW2 daily players = very roughly 500K
GW2 active players at any given time = 100K
FFXIV daily players = 1.3M
FFXIV active players at any given time = 1.3M / (500K/100K) = 260K

Mare active players at any given time = 20K afaik (maybe some degens could correct me if I'm wrong)

20K/260K = 7.7%

So 7.7% of players are high tier degens using mare. There is also mid tier degens not accounted here, of course.

Obviously half of these number are rough estimates, but even in better cases, we will end end up with more than 3% of players being absolute degens who use mare.

If you don't believe significant part of this community is into ERP, just look at all the mod websites, and follow the rabbit hole into 10s and 100s of 10K+, or even 100K+ ERP discords.