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    Possibility of XI discount for XIV players?

    I don't want to beat a dead horse or start a flame war concerning this topic, but I would at least like the community team/devs to hear me out.

    I had just recently come back to Final Fantasy XIV after a long break, but by no means am I a stranger to the game. I've alpha and beta tested the game as well as played for quite a while when the game came out in September of 2010, but could not find a fan base due to the demise of the immediate release. I came back to the game in January and have deactivated my character (Misfitwonder of Carbuncle) on Final Fantasy XI. It's good to be in Eorzea and I can't wait until 2.0!

    However, all enthusiasm aside - I've been keeping a close eye on Vanafest 2012 this weekend, and while the thought of a new expansion and new jobs are very tempting, there's still one thing that's really holding me back from playing Final Fantasy XI again. I'm still waiting for someone on the dev panel to say "oh! we're going to be lowering the subscription of XI". TBH, as great of a game as Final Fantasy XI is, it is really hard to justify paying the $12.95 for a 10-year old game that could very well be on life support due to their players flocking to other MMORPGS, including but not limited to Final Fantasy XIV. I'm just afraid that a new expansion may not be enough to bring the XI community back, especially with members' hatred against Abyssea "ruining the game". "Seekers of Adoulin" comes out in 2013, and at the time...I have no ambition on jumping back to XI until that time arises, and even at that point will still be a consideration.

    Right now, with the XIV legacy campaign, XIV currently costs less per month than XI. XIV will be a brand-new experience as well as a brand new game with the release of not only 2.0, but the imminent Playstation 3 release as well. However, as I've said before, this may be beating a dead horse, but I would like to still see some incentive for playing Final Fantasy XI in conjunction with XIV again. When I first bought the collectors edition of XIV, the original caveat of playing both games enticed me, seeing the light at the end of the tunnel that I would not be paying (at the time) over 25 dollars for both games per month, but rather 20 dollars per month (12.99+7 see: http://www.shacknews.com/article/652...final-fantasy/ ). Will an incentive like that eventually return?

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    Little Troublemaker (Gugnir)
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    Last edited by misfitwonder; 06-24-2012 at 02:41 AM.

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    I think I do see an issue with it since XI players may feel cheated that they aren't being given a chance at a discount for a game that's been out for 10yrs yet an fresh new MMO is offering a discount, but not only a discount also the option to have access to more characters. So even without the discount in XIV the pricing when compared is:
    XIV Entry=12.99 1char on each server 8 chars
    XI=12.99 +7 additional characters=20.00

    XIV Standard=14.99 8 char on 8 servers/max 40 characters
    XI=12.99 +I don't want to think about it but ya it's 40 so that's <_< a lot of money 52.00/53

    So ya with the above in mind I think simply removing the cost of a character ID and making FFXI cost 12.99 for 8 characters or maybe 16 characters would be enough of an incentive to make people think about playing again since I personally have 3-4 mules that I did shut down to just 2 but that's still 15.00 to play monthly lol. I rather not play a game in which most of my time is spent idling waiting for this to do meanwhile here in XIV I can easily pickup levels or start crafting all for the low price of 9.99 a month and when 2.0 kicks in I will have the option of additional characters without having to pay an extra dollar for them
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    Last edited by Airget; 06-24-2012 at 02:19 AM. Reason: didn't notice the 40 character limit lol

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    I think exactly same as OP. would like see an answer from developers about this.
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    Ignore my post I didnt finish reading the original OP...sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    Ignore my post I didnt finish reading the original OP...sorry
    That's okay, would still like to know if you have any comments/concerns though.
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    Personally, if XI threw a sort of "Welcome Back Campaign/Reactivation Event" like all the other MMOs love to do those days for FFXI, (Reactivating all inactive accounts for a couple days/week/month) people would flock back to retry. You would need to somehow filter RMT from spamming everyone but there's no better incentive than free.

    It would help tons of people on the fence to try the game again, after getting soured by Abysseapocalypse, especially now that the cap is 99. I'm sure there are people wondering what they are going to do now that the dust has settled and they have the cap at 99, and what kind of "endgame" they will implement now that they have a stable level cap.

    To have more of an effect, do it right before/after this new "expansion" launches.

    There are many things they can do to monetize both games to bring in more money, but Yoshida has been reluctant to try anything since 2.0 is not done yet. Once 2.0 is out they may think of running some kind of cross-incentive if you play both games like what they did when XIV launched with the free hermes shoes and subscription package discount.

    Just like how they cannot afford to let XIV fail, (The entire reason for the 2.0 revamp) they also cannot let XI fail either, as they don't want a gap in their numbered FF games if one of these two games close down.
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    There is already a discount... Did they end it?

    At launch, anyone with a FFXIV sub got a discount on their XI Sub if they linked their POL to their SE account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    There is already a discount... Did they end it?

    At launch, anyone with a FFXIV sub got a discount on their XI Sub if they linked their POL to their SE account.
    Yeah, it ended. The sub for XI is at full price. The one they had earlier this year only lasted for a few months.
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    FFXI has a discount for those subscribed at both FFXI and FFXIV. If you are sub'ed in both you will pay only 7 bucks for FFXI sub.

    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/topics/ffxiv/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    FFXI has a discount for those subscribed at both FFXI and FFXIV. If you are sub'ed in both you will pay only 7 bucks for FFXI sub.

    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/topics/ffxiv/
    That discount only applied for 3 billing cycles, between Jan '12 and May '12.
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