Manderville Relic Criticism

[Supersnow845]

Also glad to see people finally acknowledge that mainsub absolutely refuses to acknowledge any criticism and will either just insult you or deflect the criticism

I had someone on there who asked me for an example of a failed job system in 14, I answered with stormblood lilies, immediately I got downvoted to hell and everyone was replying with some combination of “blood for the blood lily” or “I just hate WHM”, when I tried to explain I meant stormblood lilies only (I’m indifferent to ShB lilies) everyone basically just said they were exactly the same and I was just a hater, I then got muted

[BaconBits]

Also glad to see people finally acknowledge that mainsub absolutely refuses to acknowledge any criticism and will either just insult you or deflect the criticism

I had someone on there who asked me for an example of a failed job system in 14, I answered with stormblood lilies, immediately I got downvoted to hell and everyone was replying with some combination of “blood for the blood lily” or “I just hate WHM”, when I tried to explain I meant stormblood lilies only (I’m indifferent to ShB lilies) everyone basically just said they were exactly the same and I was just a hater, I then got muted

[Supersnow845]

Trying to figure out if this image is going “what the f are you talking about” or “what the f were those people on mainsub talking about”

[Koros]

Also glad to see people finally acknowledge that mainsub absolutely refuses to acknowledge any criticism and will either just insult you or deflect the criticism

I had someone on there who asked me for an example of a failed job system in 14, I answered with stormblood lilies, immediately I got downvoted to hell and everyone was replying with some combination of “blood for the blood lily” or “I just hate WHM”, when I tried to explain I meant stormblood lilies only (I’m indifferent to ShB lilies) everyone basically just said they were exactly the same and I was just a hater, I then got muted

When you think the forums are dumb, just go look at Reddit it's actually filled with NPCs. It's become a thing in the game too sadly, people making the same unfunny Reddit joke for the 738742883th time. It almost feels like playing with Trusts but they added ChatGPT to it.

[Supersnow845]

When you think the forums are dumb, just go look at Reddit it's actually filled with NPCs. It's become a thing in the game too sadly, people making the same unfunny Reddit joke for the 738742883th time. It almost feels like playing with Trusts but they added ChatGPT to it.

I legit feel like the mainsub has fallen off a cliff, almost every post has become some effort bait about “oh my god I just saw x thing this is the best game ever” or some played out joke/saying like “blood for the blood lily” and then all the comments are just functional yes men

Even shitpostxiv is dying because mainsub isn’t feeding them any remotely interesting content anymore and as much as I regularly doompost on discussion even I get tired of how depressing it is sometimes

[VentVanitas]

at this point the main sub has been nothing but reposted commission art and "hi I've played for 5 minutes and this is the best game EVER" posts since ShB, which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if- as others have already said, it didn't completely stomp out any sign of discontent. does anyone remember when the 6.2 megathread got mcthanos'd because too many people had pointed out how utterly lacking it was? it just fascinates me that you're more likely to find productive discussion of the game on the shitpost sub of all places.

say what you want about the forums, it sure as hell is a mess, but at least people aren't silenced for their opinion, be it positive or negative. unless you're mass reported ig

[Syln]

i don't see why you couldn't have both a eureka/bozja zone and an alternative with tomestone for those who don't want to bother or that get bored of said zone. Why does it have to be one or the other ?

[Jojoya]

i don't see why you couldn't have both a eureka/bozja zone and an alternative with tomestone for those who don't want to bother or that get bored of said zone. Why does it have to be one or the other ?

It doesn't have to be either/or. SE can set up the relic grind anyway they want.

But if one method is much more efficient at completing the stage of the relic, players are generally going to pick that method even if they don't like it. And then complain that the content they liked wasn't rewarding enough.

[LittleImp]

But if one method is much more efficient at completing the stage of the relic, players are generally going to pick that method even if they don't like it. And then complain that the content they liked wasn't rewarding enough.

If people actually did what was efficient, they would have been in Bozja doing their SHB relics.

Instead, they opted to torture themselves by spamming Crystal Tower because unqualified people on Reddit managed to convince a large portion of the playerbase that it was the best way to do the relic.

[Jojoya]

If people actually did what was efficient, they would have been in Bozja doing their SHB relics.

Instead, they opted to torture themselves by spamming Crystal Tower because unqualified people on Reddit managed to convince a large portion of the playerbase that it was the best way to do the relic.

I never got that far into the relic so I wasn't paying attention to CT versus Bozja farming.

I do remember people complaining about HW FATE and Antitower spamming for the first couple of stages because the drop rates for those particular memories in Bozja were hideously poor at the time. Players were begging SE to give them a decent reason to farm the memories in Bozja. Sounds like SE finally addressed it in the later stages.

Yet in a way you're supporting what I said. They were following what others had told them was the most best way to do it, even if that method didn't turn out to be the best way. Most players don't try to figure it out on their own. They wait for others to announce a best way then stick to it.