What are you looking forward to most in 6.45?

**Naoki34** · 07-18-2023 05:59 PM

MSQ > Relics > Island Sanctuary > Variant

I wasn't particularly looking forward to the end of the Pandaemonium raid story, but I was pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed Themis.

Cutting a patch in half means that the content is finished fairly quickly, especially as I don't usually do Ex unless I'm interested in a glam.

I'm hoping that the SGE and RPR Relics won't be ugly, especially the SGE one, I ended up sticking with the Divine Light one.

As for the variant dungeon, I'd have liked it to be with Hien or Yugiri. I'm rather disappointed that it's Hancock, there were some fun moments with him during the MSQ, but he's still a brigand running a business for the Ul'dah cartel.

As for the relic, I hope it's going to be as much fun as the last quests.

**Deo14** · 07-18-2023 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Shikiseki

Probably looking around criterion and take some screenies as it seems to have some really gorgeous backgrounds - true endgame!

I think SE is just confused about the endgame. They seem to think that this is single player game and that endgame means that you end your game after you finish the content once and then go play something else.

**Cidel** · 07-18-2023 06:42 PM

Going to have to grind out BLU 1st, since spell-learning parties are going to drop off the face of PF 2-3 weeks in, as usual for these types of short-lived content.

**LianaThorne** · 07-18-2023 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Deo14

I think SE is just confused about the endgame. They seem to think that this is single player game and that endgame means that you end your game after you finish the content once and then go play something else.

Ngl I'm kinda at a point where I don't hate that mentality anymore. I've been on break for a month or two now and having the freedom to catch up on my long list of games/focus on real life without feeling like I'm desperately missing anything in 14 has been nice. There's a high chance I won't even log in to do 6.45 stuff today since I honestly just don't feel a pressure to do so. I feel like if I do it today or next week, it doesn't really matter.

I think it's rather unhealthy to sink your entire life into this game (speaking from someone who did that for three years) and at this point I don't think the intent behind this game is to make it one like that. Doesn't mean people don't do it anyway (guilty) but it's sort of like you're causing your own issue instead of there actually being one.

**Carin-Eri** · 07-18-2023 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Eraden

Buts, buts, Mao LIKES Hildebrand! Mao enjoys Hildebrand quests VERY much!

And that's fair enough - as I said, individual prerogative.

For me, though, in the same way I don't find hearing the same joke told five or six times funny, I don't find Hildibrand flying through the air and landing headfirst in the ground with his clothes in tatters for the 50th time, Nashu being a scatterbrain, Godbert running around in his underpants (*shudder*) for the 50th time funny anymore.

**OM3GA-Z3RO** · 07-18-2023 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

And that's fair enough - as I said, individual prerogative.

For me, though, in the same way I don't find hearing the same joke told five or six times funny, I don't find Hildibrand flying through the air and landing headfirst in the ground with his clothes in tatters for the 50th time, Nashu being a scatterbrain, Godbert running around in his underpants (*shudder*) for the 50th time funny anymore.

Heavensward Hildi was peak comedy in FFXIV standards, Endwalker Hildi seems to keep rehashing the same joke over and over again.

**Deo14** · 07-18-2023 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Ngl I'm kinda at a point where I don't hate that mentality anymore. I've been on break for a month or two now and having the freedom to catch up on my long list of games/focus on real life without feeling like I'm desperately missing anything in 14 has been nice. There's a high chance I won't even log in to do 6.45 stuff today since I honestly just don't feel a pressure to do so. I feel like if I do it today or next week, it doesn't really matter.

I think it's rather unhealthy to sink your entire life into this game (speaking from someone who did that for three years) and at this point I don't think the intent behind this game is to make it one like that. Doesn't mean people don't do it anyway (guilty) but it's sort of like you're causing your own issue instead of there actually being one.

It better not be more than a week from now on then, since it seems like V&C still has bad rewards, so you'll end up having to run it solo if you miss this opportunity. No FOMO btw, but make sure you play it on patch, or it will take ages for you to find a group.

If I wanted to do what you do, I'll just play single player games - and guess what, I'm doing that already, I'm currently playing CP2077 and I'm loving it. But this is MMORPG, it needs to give players reasons to play it, because queues need to be filled so others can play.

Sinking your life into a game is such a lame argument. Good games will make you want sink your life in it, just like any good product, but it's up to you to have a tiniest amount of self control so the games won't obstruct your life. If they do, that's your mental problem, not a problem with a game. Products shouldn't be mediocre so they protect users from liking it too much.

**CherryLemonade** · 07-18-2023 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by sagacious

EW wasn't a mistake. I don't wanna grind for relics. 1500 tomes is fine because I can get a weapon for all my classes very easily. I don't need complexity I need a shiny complex-styled weapon.

This is called a tome weapon, and that's why they exist, for those who do not choose the relic grind. Making this relic grind basically nothing is a slap in the face to a large portion of the player base and just plain lazy development imo.

**Listrella** · 07-18-2023 10:15 PM

variant dungeon

**Shurrikhan** · 07-18-2023 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Heroman3003

>Eureka
>Depth

What depth lmao, you just kill NMs nonstop, the Eureka grind is 20 times more mindless and numbing than any amount of roulettes. And, for both Eureka and Bozja, I sure hope there isn't ever again another step that requires you to participate in giant raid content that will be dead next expansion (looking at you, BA and DR). I'd take the boredom that is grinding currency in roulettes over misery that is exploration zone raids.

Now, I do hope there will be more involved steps, but knowing what 'more involved' meant with previous relics, I won't be too upset if its another 1500 tome shill either.

Originally Posted by Ranaku

Working with the lost actions was always fun, people had to at least in the first days actually figure out how it works and what spawns bosses and people had to actually team up. Also dunno if you remember but we got BA too and people still run it frequently.

People like you are the reason we have the bland tomestone grind now.

I'm not sure why we need to argue over which dunghill (Exploratory Mission grind or Tomestone grind) stunk worse, as compared to just discussing how they might each be improved?

Originally Posted by Theodric

I enjoyed Eureka and Bozja. Neither bit of content was perfect but...surely such content could just be designed with future proofing in mind instead of scrapping it altogether.

That I'd like to see. Though, I could say the same for revised Anima books, etc. XIV too often leaves something just a couple egregious, but easily dealt with, irritants away from good and instead just starts up another attempt to differently poor quality instead of fixing what was there.

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