Thread: 7.0 MMO to a Single Player Game

Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Old enough to have life responsibilities making sitting in front of a PC all day unlikely. I stopped raiding in MMOs simply because I don't have the time I want to dedicate to a static.

If solo play options are available, it doesn't mean people still can't group up if they want to.

in some cultures that "life responsibility" can start pre 16 years old. I know what the concept is, I just want to know what they term as "rather old" since it sounds like blaming the solo direction on almost retirees. most people out of high school have responsibilities, one of the dubious joys of "adulting" means you make life choices such as... "I wanna game tonight". also means that you can decide if you want a single player game or an mmo.

reality is that people pushing for solo content often say its because of "responsibilities" because that sounds better than they simply do not want to play with others in a game designed to ...play with others. really they want the company to conform to their preferred play style, no different than hard core players want the difficulty ramped way up to suite their preferences, or pvpers want pvp expanded to open world... but making it seem like they are simply being "responsible adults" doesnt make their need for more solo content sound that bad or self centered. (and no, I am not a teen, I fall well into the "rather old" category and even have a child and work full time, I am just able to make time to game and enjoy the friends I have made online through doing things with other people)

I don't mind it.
I personally loved Trial #2 in Endwalker. It felt immersive. I loved all the extra dialogue. I wish it was the same with Trial #3
When I do MSQ, I tend to hide the chat box anyway to avoid any spoilers.
This should not affect endgame activities since roulettes, extremes, savages, and ultimates still require you to group up with other players.

Originally Posted by tsuchii

I don't mind it.
I personally loved Trial #2 in Endwalker. It felt immersive. I loved all the extra dialogue. I wish it was the same with Trial #3
When I do MSQ, I tend to hide the chat box anyway to avoid any spoilers.
This should not affect endgame activities since roulettes, extremes, savages, and ultimates still require you to group up with other players.

Basically this. This is why I feel folks are overblowing what's being done. The game isn't suddenly going to become some barren wasteland where most players play solo. All they're doing is adding options to the game to appeal to more players. (Which is good for funding and the health of the game). You'll still be able to run your savages, your EXs, your Eureka zones, roulettes etc with folks.

If that's an issue for people then I say I hope you find a better game for yourself.

ez method, save enough gils then play the lauch of 7.0 afterward quit and wait for 7.55 then play. Congrats you save hundreds USD of dollars. The best part you can use the free login to catch it up content for story, just play tank or healer to make it faster. EZ GAME

Its hard to say as of the moment, a lot of the reworked dungeons from ARR are fine (thank god copperbell was changed into something more entertaining) but I think they need to just speed up certain boss moves cause the AI can move in time. However in regards to Trials yeah they mentioned its something they may consider but I don't think it will be something they will do anytime soon. They are clearly making it so 7.0 is still a continuation and not a new starting point unless this is changed and announced at fanfest. The further we get from ARR story/expansion wise the harder it is for new players to get into content...I don't see it as a bad thing to have people be able to single player early game stuff. In fact I would like them to rework the 4 man primal fights with ifrit, titan, garuda and leviathan maybe ramuh too because ifrit especially is a joke with how the scaling is in the game.

I don't know its too soon to say as a whole if this is a good idea or a bad idea...guess we shall wait till fanfest to form an opinion

The game is already boring. It's a solo experience at this point.

If it goes that far, I'll be taking more breaks.

Would be nice if trials had more incentive to rerun beyond "I'm a few tomes short of the weekly cap and it's faster than a dungeon", though.

Originally Posted by ValkyrieL

I'm Personally not a fan of it, base on adjustments SE made to dungeons, they dumb down several mechanics so an NPC can do them. My fear is that 8 man raids would be dumb down as well so it can be complete with NPC.

What's even the loss there? Let single players enjoy the MSQ at their own pace with NPCs - plus there's two things:

a) Raids, Alliance raids, side story Trials are all optional content. I don't remember the stance of making the story accessible to single players extending to that part as well.
b) Even if they end up doing that, the Savage/EX modes probably wouldn't be touched. Plus, they could make the weekly chests available just with player groups for the normal modes, and it wouldn't invalidate the weekly duty finder queues.

Honestly, one thing I must say: I'd actually love (if in Endwalker's example), after patch 6.1 when it's outdated content, Hydaelyn Extreme being an exception that could be used with the Trust system, for the sole reason of offering a way to practice high end content. As a DNC/RDM main, I've been really wanting to main Astrologian lately to complete this patch's Savage fights (took a break and came back late), but I really don't want to expose a group of people to someone who didn't heal a single hard fight ever, and having a way to practice in such pressure environment would go a long way.

What even is the game at this point?

It calls itself an MMORPG but is neither MMO nor RPG.

It's problem Is it tries to be to much. And has lost its identity as a result.

If your game is an MMORPG. Then you should build it to cater to MMORPG players. If people don't Iike that genre that's no issue.

No one ever picks up an FPS and complains because they don't like running around shooting people...

The same should be true here. If you do tike multilayer games don't play an MMO

If you don't like RPGs don't play an RPG.

I suspect that moving everything in the MSQ to single-player soloable would probably improve the game experience for those of us still new to the game. I'm doing healer as a main, and I can't imagine the frustration that someone who's leveling through story must feel at the que times....