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    TokyieRage's Avatar
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    New Jobs Question for 2.0

    So Yoshi-P Said they would be using a class to develop multiple jobs. Here is his Quote:

    For example - and this does not mean that this is going to happen - but for example, right now the gladiator will change his job to a Paladin. But maybe in the future a gladiator will also be able to change to Dark Knight. Again, this is a maybe... Not saying anything about Dark Knights.

    My question is, say I have all 50s, and Gladiator for example will in fact develop into Dark Knight. Since I am 50 Gladiator at the moment, when you unlock Paladin your instantly level 50 Paladin. How are they going to change this so people actually have to level Dark Knight, and not just have instant level 50 Dark Knight when it releases because they have 50 GLD.

    I hope they develop this correctly, cause with the current system, it would take no work to get instant 50 when jobs are released. Just curious if anyone else has thought of this and what you guys think.

    Again, not saying this is set in stone that they will do this multiple jobs for one class thing, but if they do.
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    Sounds like something tasty from FF5.
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    I think from their point of view - and I'm not saying this is the right point of view - the "progression" of a job is completely disconnected from levels. In their minds, it's fine if everyone has DRK at 50 as soon as it's released, because no-one will have any DRK abilities, they'll have to do the DRK progression to get those, i.e. do Job Quests. That is to say, doing Job Quests is leveling a job as they see it, so it doesn't really matter what level you start as.
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    Cecilia Amor
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    I have the same issue, feels like there is going to be a major lack of progression and class development. I would be okay with this if they added interesting horizontal class development, such as BLU spell hunting, or Avatar battles in XI, because then having a 50 job wouldn't mean much 'ill you pulled that off anyway. But at the moment, every job develops in the same, uninteresting fashion.

    The other issue I have with multiple jobs coming from classes would be the implication that certain jobs will share 75% of their skill set with other jobs. Wasn't the point of the job system to increase role uniqueness? That sounds more like a devolution to me
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    Well, like when Paladin was added, you still have to do the quests to obtain all the proper skills. I'm fine with being a level 50 Dark Knight the day it's added, as it'll give me something to unlock.

    Or, you know, they could just add another class that Dark Knight needs so people will have to level that.
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    Zafeira Zhalwann
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    Oh boy here we go with branching jobs.
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    Rau Berlioz
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    I hope they don't give DRK to GLA
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyph View Post
    Oh boy here we go with branching jobs.
    branching jobs is the corner stone of the system we have now (despite we have 1:1 ratio now because they don't have time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    I hope they don't give DRK to GLA
    It wouldn't be that bad, to be honest. You reshuffle GLA's abilities and traits to be more down the middle of the road, adjust stuff on PLD so that the extreme tank focus goes on PLD and only PLD, remove dagger access from GLA and give them Great Sword to compensate, then give GLA the quest to unlock DRK making MRD and LNC DRK's sub-classes. Here's my example in detail.

    It can work, but would need some rebalancing of the classes. Which I don't mind.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Well sure you are lv 50 PLD but you don't have the PLD skills til you do all the quest so that's the progress for those jobs.
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