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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDecay View Post
    This has been repeated again and again but the existence of many JP games with invasive DRMs and anti-cheats prove this point wrong.
    The game is sold outside of Japan. In some European countries this is actually law. In the USA its not but its basically suicide to include a DRM like that. Different cultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    The game is sold outside of Japan. In some European countries this is actually law. In the USA its not but its basically suicide to include a DRM like that. Different cultures.
    Sure, but not once has anyone provided the exact law in question that prohibits SE from wrapping the game with some rudimentary anti-cheat or detection (not even within the memory allocated to FF14). The only source of this misinformation is from the developer team itself.
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    Last edited by TheDecay; 07-05-2023 at 12:36 PM.
    Dealing with bad-faith forum posters who tell you to quit or say your concern is in the minority:
    1. Do not engage in their bad-faith attacks.
    2. Warn others of their bad-faith if they have a long history of it.
    3. Continue the productive conversation and silently report them for personal attacks.
    Be firm but polite, recognize their tactics and don't fall into their traps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WantlessYoYo View Post
    SE can't legally scan your PC.
    Yes they can. They just dont want to. Or are unable to do with their code.
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    Last edited by Shinkuno; 07-05-2023 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
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    Eh, I'll believe it when I see some definitive proof that they can detect it.
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    Even if they can detect it, so what? I know it's officially not allowed, but, unless something has changed, as far as I know it's fine as long as you're only using it for yourself and not being a dick to other people because of their parses. I personally don't use it but I also don't care if other people do.

    Same goes for cosmetic mods, I think? I know gshade/reshade is tentatively allowed (and won't be neccessary after 7.0 from the looks of it), but the rest should be fine, as long as people don't go around posting NSFW pictures of the game everywhere.
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    People in the support and bug forums post a list of programs running on their PC. Guess which programs are included in the list? SE still doesn't care.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    often people believe as long as you don't mention it explicitly in chat, that you cannot get banned for using ACT.

    I see a lot of statics simply using it as if it were a necessary tool.

    ACT requires admin permissions to run, which is a huge red flag.

    It also does not read data from combat log, it requires network permissions to sniff network packets to read data. And the data it cannot read, it just makes it up with an approximation (dot tick damage)

    Recently ACT had to be reworked for ffxiv because sqex changed the way they handled network packets, which should be telling

    Oh and that goes for your mods too, if you think cosmetic mods are undetectable you are also delusional.

    The only reason you are allowed to use all this shit is because sqex allows you to.
    Pretty much useless thread and topic
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    What's the point of this thread? OP, are you on console and angry about the disparity of tools available?

    I would agree that things like Cactbot are outright cheating (but more to the point, they will make you worse at the game even if the superficial result might appear to be the opposite), but with ACT this is kinda SE's own fault, by making DPS checks so core to the game.

    Going off the number of ERP'ers FFXIV has (and the tools they all seem to use), I think it's fair to say SE don't care if you use cosmetic mods as long as you don't advertise that you do.
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    i dont get what this post means to prove? did op get benched and this is just a not so subtle threat to the static they were removed from?
    i mean knowing what permissions a third party program asks for is kinda indicative of having said program.. just saying..
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