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    Player
    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Often JPN exclude Elemenal because many there are English only speakers and don't know/refuse to use the strat or placements accepted by the JPN community. It's moreso that JPN (I am one) prefer to actually be able to communicate with each other for harder things like EX and Savage.

    Not to mention that no one wants to be embarrassed by not being able to respond or speak in English. Also, since PF are for practice and DF for clear in JPN, communication is even more important to learn those fights.
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    Zeastria's Avatar
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It's also about money.. if they where ban all who used mods..( inc those who dont abuse it or show it)..
    -They will lose a huge ammount of their players..and they know this..
    ( also it would take a lot work-hours to ban all those players)
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    SCH/AST/DNC/VPR/SMN

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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    It's also about money.. if they where ban all who used mods..( inc those who dont abuse it or show it)..
    -They will lose a huge ammount of their players..and they know this..
    ( also it would take a lot work-hours to ban all those players)
    Why would they want to completely kill off their game ? The only people left would be console players and a minority of PC players, as you said they'd just lose almost the entirety of their playerbase
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    The only reason you are allowed to use all this shit is because sqex allows you to.
    Correct. Next thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Zebra Rune
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    Just another morally superior soapbox thread by OP, nothing worth responding to here.
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Given Squeenix's demonstrated talent with networking code, I'm going to go out on a limb and say no they can't.
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    Wantless Yoyo
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    Raiden
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    SE can't legally scan your PC.
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WantlessYoYo View Post
    SE can't legally scan your PC.
    They can put an obstacle up on the data though that you mine from it and every app/program leaves traces as it has to ping the server, and they can shutdown the data transmitted as well or encrypt it, so it can't be translated other than by devs and testers, that test new dungeons and raids etc.
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    Sindele Actoria
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    They can put an obstacle up on the data though that you mine from it
    Not without encryption, and there are a number of reasons that you generally don't want to encrypt your client data and a number of reasons that this encryption rarely lasts long enough to be meaningful.
    and every app/program leaves traces as it has to ping the server
    Not true at all for accessing client-side data - and if you do need to ask the server for anything, you can just do the thing in the client and capture what the server sends you ("packet capture"). That's also invisible, since you're monitoring the local network, not the program (or server) specifically in a way that it can see. Again, there are potential encryption methods that can be used here, but with all the same weaknesses. They will always get in eventually. It's spectacularly, transcendentally difficult to lock someone out of data you're processing on their own PC.
    and they can shutdown the data transmitted as well or encrypt it, so it can't be translated other than by devs and testers, that test new dungeons and raids etc.
    Dev/test builds are completely separate from the customer (production) client. The only way you're finding in-development material in a production client is if it was left in the client build for whatever reason. Similarly, some server-side data is simply impossible to capture from outside because it's only ever processed server-side: loot tables, boss scripts, etc. etc.
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    Gabon Decay
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    Marilith
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WantlessYoYo View Post
    SE can't legally scan your PC.
    This has been repeated again and again but the existence of many JP games with invasive DRMs and anti-cheats prove this point wrong.
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    Dealing with bad-faith forum posters who tell you to quit or say your concern is in the minority:
    1. Do not engage in their bad-faith attacks.
    2. Warn others of their bad-faith if they have a long history of it.
    3. Continue the productive conversation and silently report them for personal attacks.
    Be firm but polite, recognize their tactics and don't fall into their traps.

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