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    Player
    LukaRoselia's Avatar
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    Ruby Togawa
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    Then they're clearly lying when they say its not allowed then aren't they or every raider would be banned.
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    Asako Natsume
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    They can detect it but they are not allowed to due to Japanese laws preventing them from performing scans on other peoples computers. Yoshi P has himself said this is the reason.
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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asako View Post
    They can detect it but they are not allowed to due to Japanese laws preventing them from performing scans on other peoples computers. Yoshi P has himself said this is the reason.
    they don't have to give any explanation as to why they ban or terminate your account
    so there really isn't anything stopping them from just banning people who are constantly triggering errors and suspicious logs on their clients
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    they don't have to give any explanation as to why they ban or terminate your account
    so there really isn't anything stopping them from just banning people who are constantly triggering errors and suspicious logs on their clients
    Lol. Ok we will see how well that works out.
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    Nabriales Majestic
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    they don't have to give any explanation as to why they ban or terminate your account
    so there really isn't anything stopping them from just banning people who are constantly triggering errors and suspicious logs on their clients
    They ban people who make it obvious, and the reason for the bans is typically they use ACT to harass others. It isn't the use of ACT that get people banned, thousands of people use it without ever being found out. It's harassment that does.
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asako View Post
    They can detect it but they are not allowed to due to Japanese laws preventing them from performing scans on other peoples computers. Yoshi P has himself said this is the reason.
    There are other games in JP, which scan your computer for cheat/bot software and nothing happens. For me, it is a bad excuse. I guess, ACT is such a little problem for them, that it is not worth the effort to introduce a scan software for it.




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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 08-24-2023 at 05:29 PM.

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    Square-Enix knows all and sees all.

    But they won't necessarily make a big deal of it.
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Well, I have seen 1st hand how much of a difference ACT can make back in 3.x when I was a raider. 2 people always posted to FFXIV logs it took seeing the numbers of our worse member to explain how they were playing brd wrong.
    He went from last to splitting 2-3 DPS, I mean the tanks were out DPSing him.

    I don't mind seeing my number to know I can improve but I take pride in jobs. My Hubby could care less. So I don't Raid and don't care as much.

    Reading memory and logs by a 3rd party program isn't detectable unless you're looking for it.
    SE isn't looking for it and knows it is out there and other companies have taken action. They are giving the community the benefit of the doubt, But when you harass someone, they step in.

    I wish there were a way to know how well I'm doing overall, vs just attacking a dummy or doing the raid dummies.
    Even if the numbers where local or just me or when you using a dummy it could be like you did XXX DPS over a 2 mins window. So you could see if you could beat your own amount.
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Coeurl
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Well, I have seen 1st hand how much of a difference ACT can make back in 3.x when I was a raider. 2 people always posted to FFXIV logs it took seeing the numbers of our worse member to explain how they were playing brd wrong.
    He went from last to splitting 2-3 DPS, I mean the tanks were out DPSing him.

    I don't mind seeing my number to know I can improve but I take pride in jobs. My Hubby could care less. So I don't Raid and don't care as much.

    Reading memory and logs by a 3rd party program isn't detectable unless you're looking for it.
    SE isn't looking for it and knows it is out there and other companies have taken action. They are giving the community the benefit of the doubt, But when you harass someone, they step in.

    I wish there were a way to know how well I'm doing overall, vs just attacking a dummy or doing the raid dummies.
    Even if the numbers where local or just me or when you using a dummy it could be like you did XXX DPS over a 2 mins window. So you could see if you could beat your own amount.
    I mean...its not like thousands of players are entering random hashes of garbage into their lodestone profiles or anything...pretty sure SQEX devs have no idea what that might be.
    All seriousness however given "how" ACT interacts with the packets would make it pretty easily detectable I imagine especially given my understanding is that ACT needs to be started before the client which suggests to me that its hooking into processes on launch.
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    often people believe as long as you don't mention it explicitly in chat, that you cannot get banned for using ACT.

    I see a lot of statics simply using it as if it were a necessary tool.

    ACT requires admin permissions to run, which is a huge red flag.

    It also does not read data from combat log, it requires network permissions to sniff network packets to read data. And the data it cannot read, it just makes it up with an approximation (dot tick damage)

    Recently ACT had to be reworked for ffxiv because sqex changed the way they handled network packets, which should be telling

    Oh and that goes for your mods too, if you think cosmetic mods are undetectable you are also delusional.

    The only reason you are allowed to use all this shit is because sqex allows you to.
    Wait....

    Your telling me that SQEX is able to use a Web-browser to easily confirm these things exist? That sounds pretty far fetched to me...I mean its not like part of this games charm is likely how much people are able to tinker stuff. Its not possible that SQEX turns a blind eye so that they can avoid having to address the issue of Timmy's first trip to Balmung..
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