Adding a Magic Dot Spec Class

[tearagion]

Unless they fix the hard limit that mobs have on the number of effects that can be applied, DoT caster will not be a thing. It is a pretty high limit and it's hard to reach, but there are instances of it still being hit, and if you have a job whose DPS is entirely dependent on DoTs and they can't land them because the limit has been reached, then you have a useless job. This applies mostly to hunt mobs in the overworld, but even TOP I think ran into this problem with a few cases.

This has been addressed numerous times, DoT doesn't necessarily need to occupy a debuff slot. Slipstream is a DoT effect on the ground, no debuff. Flamethrower is a channelled DoT, no debuff. A single debuff slot can have some nuance added to it by buffing it (whether it's before like bristle on BLU, or a hypothetical new effect that upgrades it while it's on the enemy), or by extending it (old Contagion). Even all that aside, their design doesn't reflect this debuff slot concern considering DoTs that do not take advantage of a DoT's properties exist (Sonic Break, Circle of Scorn), and Reaper has an exclusively personal debuff that exists with theoretically 100% uptime when it could just as easily behave like Storm's Eye or Gekko.

[SieyaM]

This has been addressed numerous times, DoT doesn't necessarily need to occupy a debuff slot. Slipstream is a DoT effect on the ground, no debuff. Flamethrower is a channelled DoT, no debuff. A single debuff slot can have some nuance added to it by buffing it (whether it's before like bristle on BLU, or a hypothetical new effect that upgrades it while it's on the enemy), or by extending it (old Contagion). Even all that aside, their design doesn't reflect this debuff slot concern considering DoTs that do not take advantage of a DoT's properties exist (Sonic Break, Circle of Scorn), and Reaper has an exclusively personal debuff that exists with theoretically 100% uptime when it could just as easily behave like Storm's Eye or Gekko.

While Slipstream doesn't take up a debuff slot, it does require mobs to remain in it's area of effect, and putting too many things like that on one job means it is especially prone to mob movement or tanks just not being able to keep a mob still. Even with Earthly Stars ridiculous range tanks are still running mobs out of its range in dungeons, but I suppose that doesn't matter in the end since jobs are designed for Savage only.

[tearagion]

While Slipstream doesn't take up a debuff slot, it does require mobs to remain in it's area of effect, and putting too many things like that on one job means it is especially prone to mob movement or tanks just not being able to keep a mob still. Even with Earthly Stars ridiculous range tanks are still running mobs out of its range in dungeons, but I suppose that doesn't matter in the end since jobs are designed for Savage only.

I fail to see how this sufficiently contests my point that the debuff limit is a bullshit excuse

[Raikai]

This has been addressed numerous times, DoT doesn't necessarily need to occupy a debuff slot. Slipstream is a DoT effect on the ground, no debuff. Flamethrower is a channelled DoT, no debuff. A single debuff slot can have some nuance added to it by buffing it (whether it's before like bristle on BLU, or a hypothetical new effect that upgrades it while it's on the enemy), or by extending it (old Contagion). Even all that aside, their design doesn't reflect this debuff slot concern considering DoTs that do not take advantage of a DoT's properties exist (Sonic Break, Circle of Scorn), and Reaper has an exclusively personal debuff that exists with theoretically 100% uptime when it could just as easily behave like Storm's Eye or Gekko.

Hm... what if the main gauge for the caster is a 'dot receptacle' that you power up by many buffs with upkeep times, and that receptacle redirects that damage through a single persistent kardia-esque dot?

This opens up for ideas like a puppetmaster caster, treating the puppet like a voodoo doll, and kind of bypasses that dot hindrance that the system has.