Adding a Magic Dot Spec Class

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

lmfao

If they ever made a new job that was DOT based this games community would absolutely riot over it because SMN WAS the DOT based job.



DOT classes can have burst phases too ya know.

I reckon what they mean is that with how prevalent burst is over damage over time given the past high end fight designs putting increasing amounts of forced downtime that DoT may seem getting shafted.

What would be nice tho if there was a skill/mechanic that essentially blows up your DoTs prematurely so you can do that before a boss disengages.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

They'll never add a DoT class since they already pretty much pruned all the existing ones. The game can't really handle a job having too many DoT effects running.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

They'll never add a DoT class since they already pretty much pruned all the existing ones. The game can't really handle a job having too many DoT effects running.

Game can handle two on a job at least and can also utilise transformative DoTs, like upgrading a DoT into a super DoT for instance. Part of the gameplay could also accelerate how fast it ticks and speed up the duration of the debuff as well. There is also the incredibly easy solution of "don't make both your DoTs equal duration", "don't make them have half a min or longer duration" and "don't add a refresh that enhances both to the max timer without any cost to it". Yes I am massively dissing Bard here, no I am not sorry.

Improbable, not impossible. Unlikely, not never.

[remiff]

it would be nice but it's unlikely because they remove all dot from the game,
I wouldn't even be surprised if they remove or reduce the bard's dots to 1,
and personally i'm not a fan of the direction they're taking for jobs/battle system and completely removing dot effects.

Although I would love for them to add a dot mage, it would be kind of a slap in the face for the old summoner community who loved the job and have experienced the destruction of dots and the depth that the old SMN had.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

it would be nice but it's unlikely because they remove all dot from the game,
I wouldn't even be surprised if they remove or reduce the bard's dots to 1,
and personally i'm not a fan of the direction they're taking for jobs/battle system and completely removing dot effects.

Although I would love for them to add a dot mage, it would be kind of a slap in the face for the old summoner community who loved the job and have experienced the destruction of dots and the depth that the old SMN had.

I love the irony that Black Mage has arguably the single-best designed DoT in the entire game since probably around Stormblood/Shadowbringers and nobody is jealous about Thunder III/IV + Sharpcast interactions, even if it is effectively just one DoT and a multipurpose refresher.

But hey gotta make sure the next arbitrary DoT on a job is either on a 60s CD at duration shorter than 60s or be a GCD with 30s / 45s duration. Especially if you're a healer. /s

...for reference, reason why I am malding about durations so hard:
- Shadowflare 30s CD, 15s duration, couldn't be deployed along with Sacred Soil
- Bio II 30s, Bio I 18s, Miasma I 24s, Miasma II 12s (and AOE) for our dear Arcanist-likes
- Bane spread potentially resetting DoT timer on new target
- Aero II 18s, Aero III 24s + AOE (that 18s dot also made weaving a lot less shit when 1.5s cast time wasnt a thing yet)
- other DoT extensions like HW Summoner Contagion with Garuda-Egi
- Salted Earth being a 21s dome at 45s CD (about as irregular as it can get)

We had variety, we lost it in favour of "accessibility" or some shit. Thanks Shadowbringers/Endwalker.

[remiff]

I love the irony that Black Mage has arguably the single-best designed DoT in the entire game since probably around Stormblood/Shadowbringers and nobody is jealous about Thunder III/IV + Sharpcast interactions, even if it is effectively just one DoT and a multipurpose refresher.

But hey gotta make sure the next arbitrary DoT on a job is either on a 60s CD at duration shorter than 60s or be a GCD with 30s / 45s duration. Especially if you're a healer. /s

...for reference, reason why I am malding about durations so hard:
- Shadowflare 30s CD, 15s duration, couldn't be deployed along with Sacred Soil
- Bio II 30s, Bio I 18s, Miasma I 24s, Miasma II 12s (and AOE) for our dear Arcanist-likes
- Bane spread potentially resetting DoT timer on new target
- Aero II 18s, Aero III 24s + AOE (that 18s dot also made weaving a lot less shit when 1.5s cast time wasnt a thing yet)
- other DoT extensions like HW Summoner Contagion with Garuda-Egi
- Salted Earth being a 21s dome at 45s CD (about as irregular as it can get)

We had variety, we lost it in favour of "accessibility" or some shit. Thanks Shadowbringers/Endwalker.

sad reality ,
what more can I say?

[ICountFrom0]

I love the irony that Black Mage has arguably the single-best designed DoT in the entire game since probably around Stormblood/Shadowbringers and nobody is jealous about Thunder III/IV + Sharpcast interactions, even if it is effectively just one DoT and a multipurpose refresher.

But hey gotta make sure the next arbitrary DoT on a job is either on a 60s CD at duration shorter than 60s or be a GCD with 30s / 45s duration. Especially if you're a healer. /s

...for reference, reason why I am malding about durations so hard:
- Shadowflare 30s CD, 15s duration, couldn't be deployed along with Sacred Soil
- Bio II 30s, Bio I 18s, Miasma I 24s, Miasma II 12s (and AOE) for our dear Arcanist-likes
- Bane spread potentially resetting DoT timer on new target
- Aero II 18s, Aero III 24s + AOE (that 18s dot also made weaving a lot less shit when 1.5s cast time wasnt a thing yet)
- other DoT extensions like HW Summoner Contagion with Garuda-Egi
- Salted Earth being a 21s dome at 45s CD (about as irregular as it can get)

We had variety, we lost it in favour of "accessibility" or some shit. Thanks Shadowbringers/Endwalker.

I love that there was, sometimes, an entire tree of priorities that had to be juggled.
I want to see it again.

At THIS point in your rotation there are 3 spells coming off of timer, you reapply them in THIS order. You don't just recast as soon as the cast time is done. Yes, please, MORE.

[Raikai]

So I put a lot of thought into what class would be suited to be a Dot using class for ff14. After a lot of thought I came up with one for Square to check out and see if anyone else likes the idea so here it is! FF14 needs more variety when it comes to DPS and I know some of us miss when Summoner had dots or when Dragoon had bleeds and so on all I can do is hope they read this enjoy!

Green Mage: Magic Dot DPS class for FF14

Weapons: Mace or Wand

Main dots: Miasma, Disease, Virus, and Sap all dealing potency damage

dps filler: Bio cause it originally was a non elemental magic attack

Green Magick: as the dots do damage and Bio you gain 3 Green magic energy

once it gets to a certain point of Green energy you can cast a spell that puts on Venom a Massive dot damage dealing spell

Spellbound: There will be another source of energy called Spellbound which can after your dots do a certain amount of damage you can refresh em all at once Or Use Lancet dealing non elemental damage that draining Hp and MP from a target

DPS cooldowns: Darkness does dark damage

Heat: does fire damage

Drain: deals non elemental damage and converts damage to HP shares cooldown with Absorb

Absorb: deals non elemental damage and converts damage to MP shares cooldown with Drain

Haste: Faster spell casts and makes dots tick faster for 15 secs

AoE: Bane: spreads all dots on all target in range but dots do less damage

Malaise: filler does damage to all enemies in range

Defensive cooldown: Wall reduces damage by 15%

Limit Break: Pestilence: giant Poison Blob drops to the ground at high speed then plagues the land below on enemies

I'd dig 'green mage' if, for FFXIV, it had a more primal naturalist vibe... Kind of the Druid/Shaman caster rpg archetype, which is something we never had in any FF title (closer was the Berserker, but that's not a spellcaster) - this even kind of aligns with Yoshi P's will of designing unique jobs for XIV.

Conjurer/White Mage doesn't really fulfill that fantasy. To me they are the instagram witches, while a Green Mage would be the actual swamp witch, lol.

[SweetPete]

We all know the next caster job will most likely be dot based. People been wanting this for ages. The devs usually deliver. People wanted an edgy job. We got reaper. People wanted a healer that damages to heal. We got sage (Sorta) now we will see this dot mage in 7.0. I hope it’s all what people been asking for so we can stop flooding the forums about it lol. Devs please give these people a dot mage. My goodness.

[IckeDerTyp]

I still dream of spreading my dots as a SB SCH...

Prolly won't be a thing again tho, sadly.