Genuine Question Here

[Ivtrix]

Today I saw a balloon

[Renalt]

Today I saw a balloon

Did it float?

[Saraide]

If someone is being silenced by a few random forum white knights then they probably dont have anything of worth to say anyway.

[NekoMataMata]

Forums are made for discussion. Having people leave because you/they disagree would be absolutely pointless.

Maybe at this point it would be better to shut down the forums. People can't agree politely and it seems like many have taken things to the extremes. We have people brigading with their private discords, small armies of alts doing the same.

Even without all of that, it's very rare to see people on here trying to find a compromise. People treat discussions like wars to the point where they're willing to outright lie to "win".

[IkaraGreydancer]

Forums are made for discussion. Having people leave because you/they disagree would be absolutely pointless.

Maybe at this point it would be better to shut down the forums. People can't agree politely and it seems like many have taken things to the extremes. We have people brigading with their private discords, small armies of alts doing the same.

That first part is the idea that I hold as well but it's clear over the years things as they are doesn't seem to be working. One side doesn't seem to want a dialogue and attempts to push the other away from the space. Agreeing to disagree has become far less common and its just a war zone now.

Why I ask if those with negative opinions on the game simply want their own feedback space so they don't have to fight with the other side.

[NekoMataMata]

That first part is the idea that I hold as well but it's clear over the years things as they are doesn't seem to be working. One side doesn't seem to want a dialogue and attempts to push the other away from the space. Agreeing to disagree has become far less common and its just a war zone now.

Why I ask if those with negative opinions on the game simply want their own feedback space so they don't have to fight with the other side.

I don't want to point fingers but I think you're a bit biased as it's not just one side that's acting this way. Anyone that's level headed and reasonable is pretty tired of it all at this point. It's hard to tell what's real due to the alts though. People on both extremes seem to have all the time in the world to create alts to try to bait out the other side.

It also strikes me as rather strange that there's recent attempts to lump people into 'sides', especially when quite often many of those being pushed into either 'side' are completely unaffiliated with one another.

I mean I understand that most of us aren't some ven diagram of side a and side b, but there are "factions" on here, I guess. I'd like to think a good amount of us are just normal, reasonable people who have no agendas, who say what they feel whether they like something or dislike something but we've had a couple of people admit they have their own discords and that they likely brigade the forums. We know that certain groups of alts likely do the same.

[Remish]

Anyone that's level headed and reasonable is pretty tired of it all at this point. It's hard to tell what's real due to the alts though. People on both extremes seem to have all the time in the world to create alts to try to bait out the other side.

So much this. There are so many extremes from both sides on here that I often find myself not engaging in anything even though I want to. I just cannot be bothered to deal with the pettiness of it all. I just want people to talk about the game with, not have this weird war on proper forum etiquette to prove a point that the devs likely will never even see. It's exhausting. Physically, and mentally.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I don't want to point fingers but I think you're a bit biased as it's not just one side that's acting this way. Anyone that's level headed and reasonable is pretty tired of it all at this point. It's hard to tell what's real due to the alts though. People on both extremes seem to have all the time in the world to create alts to try to bait out the other side.

Tbf I didnt't specify which side was doing what there. It happens on both but there is a clear lean to a particular side in that regard. I'd never say it's 100 to 0. I'll easily say I have some bias and can only go on what I see same goes for anyone. I'm often labeled a white knight/shill/troll etc. despite expressing my issues with the game before. But because I defend or are content with certain things others aren't I get the famous labels as do others. That does aid in souring the perception of the other side when you're called things that you aren't. It's not good for a healthy forum environment.

(Also don't know how to quote 2 people or I'd have added this to my post to Theodric so my apologies from the double post if it ends up being one).

[Remish]

(Also don't know how to quote 2 people or I'd have added this to my post to Theodric so my apologies from the double post if it ends up being one).

This button on the far right below the like button



You can also hit "Reply with Quote" and copy that dialogue and then hit "Reply with Quote" again on a different post and paste it. That would be a manual multi qoute.

[Iscah]

(Also don't know how to quote 2 people or I'd have added this to my post to Theodric so my apologies from the double post if it ends up being one).

You either click the little "plus quote" icon in the lower right corner of the posts, then the red "reply to thread" button at the bottom of the page to get all the selected quotes at once, or you do it manually and copy-paste your first quote-and-reply into the next text box.

Quoted text is still just text. Cut it, paste it, delete out the irrelevant lines and images, split it in half and transplant a second copy of the quote coding tag at the beginning of the second half.