Genuine Question Here

[Carin-Eri]

I been on these forums since 2.X and that's exactly what happened back then. There was a boycott of the forums back then over it cause people's friends were getting banned. I remember there being a couple people who were getting 20 - 30 likes per post, and for lack of a better term, had simps following them. Then one day they got banned for reasons that were never really made aware. Then it happened to two or three more equally fan favorited people and then the forums started to not be taken as seriously after that. The forum echo chamber has always been here, it's just shifted into other directions over the years. But back when we did have moderation, there were other problems with the forums we were dealing with.

Sad fact is, they're not really under any obligation to inform anyone they whack with the ban-hammer why they did so.

I mean, I was banned from the forum of a game I used to play - I was never informed why, but its more than fair to assume it was because I had the audacity to criticize the CM for producing, over a period of eight years, poor quality and badly written, blogs full of spelling mistakes and incorrect dates (as said CM would copy-paste text from older blogs but fail to amend the dates) and url links that didn't work. I guess it also didn't help that I said he didn't deserve the promotion he received too, since it was a clear-cut case of failing upwards. I did at least neglect to comment on how easily offended he was during the Livestreams he did, and how sarcastic and insulting he responses often were - but eitherway, said criticism earned me a permaban on that game's forum.

[Aravell]

If it means a more healthy forum in return then so be it. Keyword IF ofc. Cause as of right now what we have going on isn't working

Oh I agree that the forums aren't exactly a pleasant place at this moment. But having been around since the ARR/HW era, I saw that heavy moderation comes with its own set of problems. Perhaps it's preferable to what we have now, perhaps not. We could really do with some moderation though.

[SannaR]

Oh I agree that the forums aren't exactly a pleasant place at this moment. But having been around since the ARR/HW era, I saw that heavy moderation comes with its own set of problems. Perhaps it's preferable to what we have now, perhaps not. We could really do with some moderation though.

Well part of the problem that we have now is people don't report enough. Yes you should either block or ignore those who you're not going to have a discussion with as they'd rather be rude or whatever. But some problems won't stop or happen less unless the mods get shown that we will do more than just gripe about problematic posters and hope that they'll some day get banned. When I say problematic posters I'm talking about our "beloved" troll and their alts.

[Carin-Eri]

If it means a more healthy forum in return then so be it. Keyword IF ofc. Cause as of right now what we have going on isn't working

Whilst I agree that things are not great here, we do at least get to 'speak' our minds. Again, whilst not keen on 'whataboutisms', the game forum I was (per my post previous to this one) banned from was ridiculous - the moderators had a FCT (Frequently Created Threads) 'policy' - namely, some topics (for example Gamble/Lootboxes) were literally NOT up for discussion and the mods there would delete any thread pertaining to them and issue a warning to the thread creator. And they had absolutely NO tolerance for negative commentary on their game whatsoever.

There is a vast amount of territory that lies between the extremes of no moderation and over-moderation.

[Nav_Fae]

Rarely does anyone ever agree with a lot of my takes, but compared to reddit I at least feel heard here by other posters. Reddit's downvote system is so trash. You either are a part of the hivemind or you aren't.

What I'd really like to know is why don't content creators ever post on these forums? How come we never see things like the Fashion Report and Raid Guides among other things posted here?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Whilst I agree that things are not great here, we do at least get to 'speak' our minds. Again, whilst not keen on 'whataboutisms', the game forum I was (per my post previous to this one) banned from was ridiculous - the moderators had a FCT (Frequently Created Threads) 'policy' - namely, some topics (for example Gamble/Lootboxes) were literally NOT up for discussion and the mods there would delete any thread pertaining to them and issue a warning to the thread creator. And they had absolutely NO tolerance for negative commentary on their game whatsoever.

There is a vast amount of territory that lies between the extremes of no moderation and over-moderation.

Guess I could see how things could spiral there. The unfortunate thing is if we did get more moderation certain folks are armed and ready to abuse it against folks they don't like. Exhibit A above you is a clear example.

Rarely does anyone ever agree with a lot of my takes, but compared to reddit I at least feel heard here by other posters. Reddit's downvote system is so trash. You either are a part of the hivemind or you aren't.

What I'd really like to know is why don't content creators ever post on these forums? How come we never see things like the Fashion Report and Raid Guides among other things posted here?

Simple. Because the place is toxic. Same reason why devs aren't in here. I'd say this place is on the same wave as reddit. The only "leg up" it has is its more positive. You'll still get dog piled in both places if people perceive you a certain way. You can't be genuine here cause a certain sect of folks will clown on you (see the start of this thread). I'd imagine content creators want n part of it.

[Noumenon]

Ikara - the Internet does no forget (not that there is any need to considering this is the only thread you've made in a while).

[Bonoki]

Ikara - the Internet does no forget (not that there is any need to considering this is the only thread you've made in a while).

What exactly was the point behind necro'ing this thread?

[Boblawblah]

What exactly was the point behind necro'ing this thread?

I feel like your signature answers that question.

[Renalt]

What exactly was the point behind necro'ing this thread?

He's been necroing drama threads all day. I'll give you one guess who that would be.