CBU3. Please respect your players.

[Jojoya]

Is this some weird gotcha attempt? Who in their right mind defends a game from locking its harder-than-story-mode difficulty behind completion of the entire game (which by the way is not hard at all if you played an action game ever)?

God of War allowed you to play on the highest difficulty from the get-go. NG+ in GoW actually only made GMGOW slightly easier because of gear carryover.

And yes, there is a lack of content in FF16, since it's 50 hours of movies and 10 hours of actual gameplay, half of which is to fetch 3 tomatoes for NPC #3501.

Why is Savage going to be delayed by at least a week going forward even though in the past they preferred to open it patch day? It's because Savage raiders who are playing a story focused game that's part of a story focused franchise wanted to be able to enjoy the story before they moved into the more challenging version of the content instead of having to rush through it at the start then replay the story later on a different character.


CBU3 has learned that most players don't want to go hardcore challenge mode from day one. They want to enjoy the content at a casual pace first. Not to mention that having the chance to play through the easy mode first gives them a chance to learn and study base mechanics so they're better prepared going into hard mode.

Does it not seem reasonable that they might want to incorporate that information into the design of other games?

If you don't like that design, don't play CBU3 games. Go play God of War. Go play Elden Ring. Stop complaining that a game is easy when all you've experienced is part of the easy mode and haven't managed to unlock the hard mode yet.

[TheDecay]

Why is Savage going to be delayed by at least a week going forward even though in the past they preferred to open it patch day? It's because Savage raiders who are playing a story focused game that's part of a story focused franchise wanted to be able to enjoy the story before they moved into the more challenging version of the content instead of having to rush through it at the start then replay the story later on a different character.


CBU3 has learned that most players don't want to go hardcore challenge mode from day one. They want to enjoy the content at a casual pace first. Not to mention that having the chance to play through the easy mode first gives them a chance to learn and study base mechanics so they're better prepared going into hard mode.

Does it not seem reasonable that they might want to incorporate that information into the design of other games?

If you don't like that design, don't play CBU3 games. Go play God of War. Go play Elden Ring. Stop complaining that a game is easy when all you've experienced is part of the easy mode and haven't managed to unlock the hard mode yet.

Casual difficulty in GoW is harder than hard mode in FF16 while GoW got multiple GOTY accolades and 94 on Metacritic, with a user score of 9.1 while FF16 will get none and languish below 90 with a pathetically low user score of 7.9.

I'm sorry but it does seem like the vast majority of players want something more than the baby mode FF16 offers its players. It's a bit rich you tell players to not play CBU3 games when the developers were actively trying to attract new players - people who never played FF14, never played FF, who are action game fans. You know, the people who play DMC and GoW, which you obviously are not. The devs themselves are trying to cater not to you but to players like me: people who enjoy GoW, DMC, Dark Souls. And my feedback to them is simple: stop dumbing down your game and respect your players. Give them complexity and difficulty and they'll enjoy it.

In fact, with such a gritty and overall excellent and dark story, it's highly bizarre the combat feels like something out of Teletubbies. What kind of players do you think are attracted to the "grimdark", Game of Thrones aesthetics? Animal Crossing players who just want to relax??

[Theodric]

So then you've already beat the game on hard mode in addition to normal mode?

Are you getting ready to complain about a lack of content in FFXVI as well?

A lot of people only play through a game once even if they enjoy it. Time is a precious commodity after all. Furthermore, it's pushed as a 'story driven' game and yet to many of us, 'story driven' only works if there's a sense of immersion. The boss fights in FFXVI are generally pretty cool but the regular enemies are laughably easy to contend with and spend most of their time either being stun locked by Clive if he attacks them with even a basic strike...or just awkwardly circling him as they pose minimal to zero threat.

It was a common concern pointed out during the game's marketing phase whenever footage of the game's combat was shown.

They took the time to develop an entire system for players who don't touch action games to be able to auto dodge so it isn't unreasonable to suggest that they should have also accounted for those who prefer a challenge from the very start.

[Renalt]

Wait a minute is hard mode actually locked behind completing the game once?

Lame if true, give me mf critical mode right of the bat.

If it's anything like FF7R Hard Mode...you do not want to start off in Hard Mode. The weakest monster will slap you down so hard in a heartbeat.

You are meant to collect the best stuff you are able and then NG+ it on hard mode as now everything is brought up to your level and then some. You now need to think before you act rather than brute force it like in Normal.

I'm pretty decent at gaming and have done some hard challenges...FF7R brought the challenge in its Hard Mode. I had to switch up my materia settings and really work at specializing a character to certain aspects rather than "OK you can all do this decently so go play and have fun face rolling".

Now this is all hoping 16 is like that. Now if it is like Dragons Dogma Hard mode...I can see wanting to challenge yourself immediately. I think in that mode in that game...enemies are more aggressive and get a flat...30% boost in attack and defense? Even a goblin can take you out in 3 hits.

[BaconBits]

If it's anything like FF7R Hard Mode...you do not want to start off in Hard Mode. The weakest monster will slap you down so hard in a heartbeat.

You are meant to collect the best stuff you are able and then NG+ it on hard mode as now everything is brought up to your level and then some. You now need to think before you act rather than brute force it like in Normal.

I'm pretty decent at gaming and have done some hard challenges...FF7R brought the challenge in its Hard Mode. I had to switch up my materia settings and really work at specializing a character to certain aspects rather than "OK you can all do this decently so go play and have fun face rolling".

Now this is all hoping 16 is like that. Now if it is like Dragons Dogma Hard mode...I can see wanting to challenge yourself immediately. I think in that mode in that game...enemies are more aggressive and get a flat...30% boost in attack and defense? Even a goblin can take you out in 3 hits.

There does not exist a single timeline where I won't start any game on hard mode if given the option.

[RitsukoSonoda]

There does not exist a single timeline where I won't start any game on hard mode if given the option.

Secret to getting good at video games in general. Immediately set game to hardest difficulty right out the box and also kill the stuff the NPCs in the game say you can't kill just to prove them wrong... >.>

[GTK0HLK]

There does not exist a single timeline where I won't start any game on hard mode if given the option.

This is the moment. when someone would joke that you may as well do as your signature is emoting.

It all can be broken down more and more.

The end result is people actively arguing over something they should of learned by now and understood as part of the series.

Or if anything, Learned that not all games or studios/companies will ever do the same.

This is but a minor thing to get twisted over.

While it would be grand for the foolish masochist, and the actual players who can handle it, which largely aren't going to complain about things they can't change instantly.

There is nothing to do, but to slog through.
XVI is a SP game, may as well go find where you can kindly ask the devs for a Unlock.

Personally, if there was a start from 0 option I would. [But unlike most, I'm relentless on struggles I chose to subscribe to.]
(But that basically leads you to the give or takes people do, which leads to cursing wishes. Which is that save has no return to lesser difficulty. Which is already a thing for "Final Fantasy" Mode. so no choice but to go through it.)

Everyone Knows what a Final Fantasy title contains, which tend to be the story, and the basic concepts or abstract ideas that define it, outside it's malleable concepts like gameplay or its world.

Maybe in the next FF Title, they'll improve, and give the masochists the option.[As those who can handle it with ease are far fewer, and wouldn't be fased by the lack of option First Run]

But unless you decide to not ask the devs directly in outlets made for the XVI devs, instead of largely arguing with people who understand your view(yet know why it won't come as easy as your complaints) or those who won't give you the time of day, Then you'll never get what you want.

[To all those who want it unlocked, which isn't a Market Standard. But a nice have for those who like to go in untrained. This ain't a DMC or adjacent anyways.]

[BaconBits]

This is the moment. when someone would joke that you may as well do as your signature is emoting.

It all can be broken down more and more.

The end result is people actively arguing over something they should of learned by now and understood as part of the series.

Or if anything, Learned that not all games or studios/companies will ever do the same.

This is but a minor thing to get twisted over.

While it would be grand for the foolish masochist, and the actual players who can handle it, which largely aren't going to complain about things they can't change instantly.

There is nothing to do, but to slog through.
XVI is a SP game, may as well go find where you can kindly ask the devs for a Unlock.

Personally, if there was a start from 0 option I would. [But unlike most, I'm relentless on struggles I chose to subscribe to.]
(But that basically leads you to the give or takes people do, which leads to cursing wishes. Which is that save has no return to lesser difficulty. Which is already a thing for "Final Fantasy" Mode. so no choice but to go through it.)

Everyone Knows what a Final Fantasy title contains, which tend to be the story, and the basic concepts or abstract ideas that define it, outside it's malleable concepts like gameplay or its world.

Maybe in the next FF Title, they'll improve, and give the masochists the option.[As those who can handle it with ease are far fewer, and wouldn't be fased by the lack of option First Run]

But unless you decide to not ask the devs directly in outlets made for the XVI devs, instead of largely arguing with people who understand your view(yet know why it won't come as easy as your complaints) or those who won't give you the time of day, Then you'll never get what you want.

[To all those who want it unlocked, which isn't a Market Standard. But a nice have for those who like to go in untrained. This ain't a DMC or adjacent anyways.]

I ain't reading all that homes, hand over the hard mode and nobody will get hurt.

[Shinkuno]

Secret to getting good at video games in general. Immediately set game to hardest difficulty right out the box and also kill the stuff the NPCs in the game say you can't kill just to prove them wrong... >.>

FF14 players are chronically afraid of challenge or anything that may use 2% of their Brainpower.

[CStrife912]

I mean im like 30 hours in and sure the hunts are the only thing that have killed me either by me over committing to a move and not knowing how much damage they do or trying to preserve potions and miscalculation. However comparing it to GoW is bait...I play both 2018 and ragnarok and they are easy even on normal for the core story around the same as 16...the fact you can select hard from the get go is nice but its more about making them bigger damage sponges and hit you harder its not like they do new things. Not saying 16 doesn't have its fair share on damage sponges however from what I've been told by friends that have finished it already due to getting it early, final fantasy mode is way more then just a 'hard mode' of GoW reworking where you encounter monsters and making them more aggressive also making more optional super bosses only accessible in this mode to actually warrants replayability.

OP mentioning rings....they aren't for the normal player...they are there for newcomers to a genre unknown to them but dipping in. FF as a franchise isn't known for its difficulty, its has always been about your strat in an encounter or 'Oh no I died...guess il go smash some levels and cakewalk it now'

In regards to you 14 bullet points I agree with points 1,2 and 6 the rest its subjective...dungeons are fine they are designed to be rinsed and repeated so usually the initial challenge is doing it the first time which sometimes they miss the mark sometimes they don't but the more you get used to any piece of content the more efficient you'll be at it so that also applies to normal raid and alliance raid well alliance less so they are designed as casual catch up raids for gear so different player type. MSQ explanation is yes and no on situation really 16 really improved on that, it doesn't really insult your intelligence when it comes to the writing and delivery, so I would like 14 to improve on it a bit.

Either way....nice to see you keep buying cheap alts to give your existence some meaning...never known something so depressing really. I knew there are trolls in any community but this isn't a troll this is a lifestyle to you an actual commitment lol.