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    CBU3. Please respect your players.

    FF16 shows just how little respect you have for your players. Literally nothing in that game is hard outside of one or two hunts, where you have to deliberately underlevel to even make it hard. And on top of that you added those accessibility rings. To make it somehow even easier?

    And what about in FF14:
    1. Healer design
    2. 2-minute meta
    3. Unchallenging dungeons, normal raids, and alliance raids
    4. Easier and easier solo instances
    5. MSQ explaining the same concept 49 times so the player finally gets it
    6. Crafting and gathering stripped of their complexity
    7. Manderville relics
    8. ...etc.

    We seriously don't need to be handheld for every single little thing.

    You know what game got GOTY while FF16 will assuredly not? God of War. Why? Because it respects the player and offers them a good challenge. And players loved it and it sold like hotcakes. Meanwhile to play a CBU3 game like FF14 or FF16 is to be insulted by the developers as they put baby guardrails all over the game.
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    Wait wait wait Gaius/Titanmen, didn't you said in that other thread that you love XIV and play it everyday? At some point you need to decide!

    I believe in you, you can unite the split personalities!
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    Gaius when other forum members start to argue with him:

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    So then you've already beat the game on hard mode in addition to normal mode?

    Are you getting ready to complain about a lack of content in FFXVI as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So then you've already beat the game on hard mode in addition to normal mode?

    Are you getting ready to complain about a lack of content in FFXVI as well?
    Is this some weird gotcha attempt? Who in their right mind defends a game from locking its harder-than-story-mode difficulty behind completion of the entire game (which by the way is not hard at all if you played an action game ever)?

    God of War allowed you to play on the highest difficulty from the get-go. NG+ in GoW actually only made GMGOW slightly easier because of gear carryover.

    And yes, there is a lack of content in FF16, since it's 50 hours of movies and 10 hours of actual gameplay, half of which is to fetch 3 tomatoes for NPC #3501.
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    Last edited by TheDecay; 06-26-2023 at 02:11 PM.

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    While I am having fun with the game, so I'm not going to engage with most of the thread issues, I was surprised that they chose to put the harder option behind the end.

    Personally I will very very rarely replay any game, so having the right feel the first time would be important to me. I don't need FFXVI to be harder so that's not my problem, but I could very well see it being other people's.
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    Wait a minute is hard mode actually locked behind completing the game once?

    Lame if true, give me mf critical mode right of the bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    having the right feel the first time would be important to me
    As with the vast majority of players who don't usually replay games.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Wait a minute is hard mode actually locked behind completing the game once?

    Lame if true, give me mf critical mode right of the bat.
    Yes, it is locked behind completing the game. Any player who has played any action game before will have a horrible first playthrough and I seriously doubt they would be inclined to do a second playthrough when it was as dull as an expert roulette the first time round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Wait wait wait Gaius/Titanmen, didn't you said in that other thread that you love XIV and play it everyday? At some point you need to decide!

    I believe in you, you can unite the split personalities!
    They are Killer 7 and all the personalities want to kill the original personality.
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