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  1. #51
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist, but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.
    yeah ok dude you're trolling
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    yeah ok dude you're trolling
    I know you are. It's okay, you'll learn not to be one in time. I believe in you to be a better person.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    You are so naive. It's clear that you haven't played WoW in quite awhile.
    Okay please tell me where what i said is factually wrong. Im waiting


    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist (and their most farmed areas in the Overworld and Dungeons), but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

    Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.

    Are you wearing a tinfoil hat right now? You are so delusional that you must be trolling. If not then thats just sad how someone can bend over for a company so hard.

    How can you even say bots are banned in time when some bots are on the same character since ARR - thats 10 years.
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    Last edited by Shinkuno; 06-24-2023 at 05:30 PM.

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.
    Again, no, advertising carries is a 3-strike offense (silence -> suspension -> ban) even if for gold/tokens. (While doing so for actual money has always been immediately bannable.) This was made official / no-tolerance for Group Finder back in July 2018 and also in Trade/General/Shout in Jan 2022. Meanwhile, our own Party Finder...

    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.
    Unless there are currently servers who are already themselves ruined economically or uniquely beset by market manipulators, no, the change will not suddenly destroy servers' economies. They'll simply become a single economy, rather than some categories of goods being faintly cheaper or more expensive (larger gaps the smaller the server, due to the ease of market manipulation) on this or that server compared to their realm average.

    Note that market manipulation is typically least friendly to the average player (the most oligarchical, so to speak), on the smaller servers. Outside of market manipulators, players primarily stand to gain from enlarging the market size.
    And no, I can't really manage sympathy for those suddenly unable to constantly buy out whole sections of small servers markets to keep prices high in the interest of their profits over the average players' access to good per at least halfway reasonable prices.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-24-2023 at 05:59 PM.

  5. #55
    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Again, no, advertising carries is a 3-strike offense (silence -> suspension -> ban) even if for gold/tokens. (While doing so for actual money has always been immediately bannable.) This was made official / no-tolerance for Group Finder back in July 2018 and also in Trade/General/Shout in Jan 2022. Meanwhile, our own Party Finder...


    Unless there are currently servers who are already themselves ruined economically or uniquely beset by market manipulators, no, the change will not suddenly destroy servers' economies. They'll simply become a single economy, rather than some categories of goods being faintly cheaper or more expensive on this or that server compared to their realm average.
    The community: please give us region wide trading to help low pop servers

    Blizzard: okay

    Tanis: dae they only do it because of wow token??
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    Let me tell you something that isn't linear, bear attacks, they're no joke. I mean, you're out there in the wilderness, right? You're in their home. It's not like they're coming into your living room, knocking over your TV and raiding your fridge. No, you're stepping into their world. And these creatures, they're majestic, but they're also terrifying. They're like nature's perfect killing machine, but they're not doing it because they're evil or something. They're just trying to survive, just like you and me.

    Now, some people, they'll tell you, 'Oh, just play dead, the bear will leave you alone.' But let me tell you something, that's not always the case. You play dead with a grizzly, maybe it works. But you play dead with a black bear, it might just start eating you. It's not about comfort, it's about understanding the situation, the struggle, the reality of nature. It's about respect, man.

    And that's what it's all about, right? Respect. Respect for the power and the beauty of nature, but also the danger. It's like life, man. It's not supposed to be comfortable all the time. You're supposed to struggle, to face challenges, to push yourself. That's how you grow. That's how you learn. So, next time you're out there in the woods, remember that. Respect the bears, respect nature, and respect yourself.
    And if you see a rune bear you are already dead.
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    The community: please give us region wide trading to help low pop servers

    Blizzard: okay

    Tanis: dae they only do it because of wow token??
    How dare they actually help the players, what a filthy company Blizzard is !
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDecay View Post
    It looks increasingly clear, with the release of FF16 and the current design trend of FF14, that CBU3 is only capable of creating linear corridors.

    Maybe they need to hire some interns from Bethesda.
    Let the irrelevant troll threads commence with FFXVI's release.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Let the irrelevant troll threads commence with FFXVI's release.
    Its already getting review bombed on metacritic. And I mean both the 10/10s and the 0/10s. I seriously hate the internet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Its already getting review bombed on metacritic. And I mean both the 10/10s and the 0/10s. I seriously hate the internet
    Same I find it sad there everything has to be so one side or the other there is no reasoning or ability to comprehend things don’t always fit that way. Anyone saying 16 is too linear clearly hasn’t played other FFs. 10 was linear maps as well with only one big map towards the end, it’s more the illusion of it being grander which I think 16 achieves for what I’ve played. 13 made everything feel claustrophobic even though it’s about as linear as 10. End of the day people are never happy you could literally give them concrete evidence of them being just as linear as each other yet people won’t believe you cause it doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The only thing I will agree on is the lack of secrets or hidden areas like on say the pixel era. Granted that could change but for now I agree. End of the day they made the game they wanted to make and I’ve enjoyed it a lot. Can’t wait to keep playing it in all honesty.
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