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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

    Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.
    Having the WoW Token or having hundreds of flying lalas under Limsa that are obviously gil sellers and farmers is.. literally the same thing.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...as_underneath/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ode_decide_to/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yte_and_found/

    I could go on and on and even take pictures myself of it, in one case it goes through Blizzard, in another case it just goes through random sellers, what's the difference ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Having the WoW Token or having hundreds of flying lalas under Limsa that are obviously gil sellers and farmers is.. literally the same thing.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...as_underneath/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ode_decide_to/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yte_and_found/

    I could go on and on and even take pictures myself of it, in one case it goes through Blizzard, in another case it just goes through random sellers, what's the difference ?
    Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist (and their most farmed areas in the Overworld and Dungeons), but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

    Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist, but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.
    yeah ok dude you're trolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    yeah ok dude you're trolling
    I know you are. It's okay, you'll learn not to be one in time. I believe in you to be a better person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.
    Again, no, advertising carries is a 3-strike offense (silence -> suspension -> ban) even if for gold/tokens. (While doing so for actual money has always been immediately bannable.) This was made official / no-tolerance for Group Finder back in July 2018 and also in Trade/General/Shout in Jan 2022. Meanwhile, our own Party Finder...

    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.
    Unless there are currently servers who are already themselves ruined economically or uniquely beset by market manipulators, no, the change will not suddenly destroy servers' economies. They'll simply become a single economy, rather than some categories of goods being faintly cheaper or more expensive (larger gaps the smaller the server, due to the ease of market manipulation) on this or that server compared to their realm average.

    Note that market manipulation is typically least friendly to the average player (the most oligarchical, so to speak), on the smaller servers. Outside of market manipulators, players primarily stand to gain from enlarging the market size.
    And no, I can't really manage sympathy for those suddenly unable to constantly buy out whole sections of small servers markets to keep prices high in the interest of their profits over the average players' access to good per at least halfway reasonable prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Again, no, advertising carries is a 3-strike offense (silence -> suspension -> ban) even if for gold/tokens. (While doing so for actual money has always been immediately bannable.) This was made official / no-tolerance for Group Finder back in July 2018 and also in Trade/General/Shout in Jan 2022. Meanwhile, our own Party Finder...


    Unless there are currently servers who are already themselves ruined economically or uniquely beset by market manipulators, no, the change will not suddenly destroy servers' economies. They'll simply become a single economy, rather than some categories of goods being faintly cheaper or more expensive on this or that server compared to their realm average.
    The community: please give us region wide trading to help low pop servers

    Blizzard: okay

    Tanis: dae they only do it because of wow token??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    The community: please give us region wide trading to help low pop servers

    Blizzard: okay

    Tanis: dae they only do it because of wow token??
    How dare they actually help the players, what a filthy company Blizzard is !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.
    You crazy? Cross server markets will SAVE a whole ton of servers. There are tons of servers that have zero economy to speak and now they will actually be able to get things crafted in a reasonable time frame.

    I'd also like to point out that FF14 has cross server markets as well it's just a bit unwieldy because you have to world travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I'd also like to point out that FF14 has cross server markets as well it's just a bit unwieldy because you have to world travel.
    Hardly a concern to bots who are capable then of autonomously buying out the stock of servers with cheaper products, but... surely we don't have bots, right? Nor RMT.
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