Linear, linear, linear

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Arent you literally the one hating on WoW and Diablo because "blizzard bad" while FFXIV does the same but then it's okay ? Looks like an L take to me

I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.

[Shinkuno]

I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.

Did you know that Square sells GIL directly in the store? The Token is merely a trading good. Glad to see how much "experience" you have.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Did you know that Square sells GIL directly in the store? The Token is merely a trading good. Glad to see how much "experience" you have.

You are so naive. It's clear that you haven't played WoW in quite awhile.

[Shinkuno]

You are so naive. It's clear that you haven't played WoW in quite awhile.

Okay please tell me where what i said is factually wrong. Im waiting

Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist (and their most farmed areas in the Overworld and Dungeons), but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.

Are you wearing a tinfoil hat right now? You are so delusional that you must be trolling. If not then thats just sad how someone can bend over for a company so hard.

How can you even say bots are banned in time when some bots are on the same character since ARR - thats 10 years.

[Stormpeaks]

I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.

Having the WoW Token or having hundreds of flying lalas under Limsa that are obviously gil sellers and farmers is.. literally the same thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...as_underneath/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ode_decide_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yte_and_found/

I could go on and on and even take pictures myself of it, in one case it goes through Blizzard, in another case it just goes through random sellers, what's the difference ?

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Having the WoW Token or having hundreds of flying lalas under Limsa that are obviously gil sellers and farmers is.. literally the same thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...as_underneath/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ode_decide_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yte_and_found/

I could go on and on and even take pictures myself of it, in one case it goes through Blizzard, in another case it just goes through random sellers, what's the difference ?

Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist (and their most farmed areas in the Overworld and Dungeons), but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.

[Stormpeaks]

Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist, but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

yeah ok dude you're trolling

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

yeah ok dude you're trolling

I know you are. It's okay, you'll learn not to be one in time. I believe in you to be a better person.

[Shurrikhan]

Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.

Again, no, advertising carries is a 3-strike offense (silence -> suspension -> ban) even if for gold/tokens. (While doing so for actual money has always been immediately bannable.) This was made official / no-tolerance for Group Finder back in July 2018 and also in Trade/General/Shout in Jan 2022. Meanwhile, our own Party Finder...

Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

Unless there are currently servers who are already themselves ruined economically or uniquely beset by market manipulators, no, the change will not suddenly destroy servers' economies. They'll simply become a single economy, rather than some categories of goods being faintly cheaper or more expensive (larger gaps the smaller the server, due to the ease of market manipulation) on this or that server compared to their realm average.

Note that market manipulation is typically least friendly to the average player (the most oligarchical, so to speak), on the smaller servers. Outside of market manipulators, players primarily stand to gain from enlarging the market size.
And no, I can't really manage sympathy for those suddenly unable to constantly buy out whole sections of small servers markets to keep prices high in the interest of their profits over the average players' access to good per at least halfway reasonable prices.

[Shinkuno]

Again, no, advertising carries is a 3-strike offense (silence -> suspension -> ban) even if for gold/tokens. (While doing so for actual money has always been immediately bannable.) This was made official / no-tolerance for Group Finder back in July 2018 and also in Trade/General/Shout in Jan 2022. Meanwhile, our own Party Finder...


Unless there are currently servers who are already themselves ruined economically or uniquely beset by market manipulators, no, the change will not suddenly destroy servers' economies. They'll simply become a single economy, rather than some categories of goods being faintly cheaper or more expensive on this or that server compared to their realm average.

The community: please give us region wide trading to help low pop servers

Blizzard: okay

Tanis: dae they only do it because of wow token??