Linear, linear, linear

[Stormpeaks]

Not my fault that you get it all twisted whenever you hear about FF14's only real competitor.

You're cute when you think the FF14 shop is anywhere near as bad as the D4 launch at launch.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

You completly missed the topic but at least you got your hourly "dae wow bad?" quota. Not only is what you described not an optional path and more akin to a exploit, in addition to that M+ is a speedrun mode, dont go into a speedrun mode if you want to sniff at every flower on the way. People will use anything, intended or not, as long as it isnt banworthy to finish those faster.

2021 Joindate, bad take - must be a WoWfugee.

Sorry, honey bun. I played FF14 on PS3 first. This is my Steam related account. Not that it matters, my point still stand and your lil personal attacks show just how threatened you are by the truth.

[Shurrikhan]

Actually, try going back and reading old WoW dev interviews. Players preferring only the most optimal path through a dungeon is exactly why they stopped creating the Sunken Temples, Maraudons and Blackrock Depths.

They stopped creating multi-path dungeons? Is that why 75% of dungeons even in this latest expansion are... multi-path dungeons?

(Heck, in that second part of Cutter's Cry, groups used to kill one pack and move on...now we don't even bother doing that and just run straight to the portals to the next rooms.)

Probably because they removed all experience gains from killing dungeon mobs, further skewing reward per minute away from side-paths, since those mobs aren't required to reach the next boss (the only things that give exp in dungeons now)?

Simply put, it's likely impossible to find something "suitably" rewarding that the playerbase in general will spend that extra time. It's not SE's fault. At all.

And our proof of this is... rewards that were painfully lackluster in their own time, do not scale (unlike tomes or experience), and are gated by mobs with uniquely zero reward directly or indirectly?

[Stormpeaks]

My PS3 account was shared and was made when FF14 was released on the PS3. My steam account is all mine.

You don't have to buy it. I don't need you to buy anything, as your opinion means nothing before the facts.

I only see a few certain individual laugh at others and they're known for their bad takes and hyperventilating whenever someone doesn't hate FF14 as much as them.

Arent you literally the one hating on WoW and Diablo because "blizzard bad" while FFXIV does the same but then it's okay ? Looks like an L take to me

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Arent you literally the one hating on WoW and Diablo because "blizzard bad" while FFXIV does the same but then it's okay ? Looks like an L take to me

I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.

[Banriikku]

Do i like linear Dungeons ? No, but i dont believe SE is cabable of creating a suitable reward structure for any PVE content... PVP for some reason it works partially (PVP Pass).
Even on the exploration side of content they are failling dispite getting it almost right with Bozja. As if they had all the data and came to the wrong conclusion... looks like a
pattern (Job-theme, side quest, relict weapons...etc.).
So yes let me have the ride on the one-direction-kiddy-train with a whack-a-mole in between, it's better then wiping and getting nothing besides "the good time".

[Shinkuno]

I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.

Did you know that Square sells GIL directly in the store? The Token is merely a trading good. Glad to see how much "experience" you have.

[Stormpeaks]

I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.

Having the WoW Token or having hundreds of flying lalas under Limsa that are obviously gil sellers and farmers is.. literally the same thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...as_underneath/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ode_decide_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yte_and_found/

I could go on and on and even take pictures myself of it, in one case it goes through Blizzard, in another case it just goes through random sellers, what's the difference ?

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Did you know that Square sells GIL directly in the store? The Token is merely a trading good. Glad to see how much "experience" you have.

You are so naive. It's clear that you haven't played WoW in quite awhile.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Having the WoW Token or having hundreds of flying lalas under Limsa that are obviously gil sellers and farmers is.. literally the same thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...as_underneath/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ode_decide_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yte_and_found/

I could go on and on and even take pictures myself of it, in one case it goes through Blizzard, in another case it just goes through random sellers, what's the difference ?

Bots exist, and are banned in time. It's nowhere near as bad as WoW's botting issue, due to sharding, that will have tons of them farming the same infinite respawning zones in Legion/BFA/Legion as running around Boomkin parties. Blizzard knows they exist (and their most farmed areas in the Overworld and Dungeons), but doesn't make a real effort against them as Gold sellers are the main ones buying WoW tokens (300k currently) off the auction house.

Blizzard has even announced that they are going to allow trading between servers within the same Realm which only serves to benefit Goldsellers and market manipulators. Many servers are about to have their economies destroyed by this change coming in the next patch.

Blizzard also allows the sale of carries and power leveling in their Trade chat at Gold levels that can only be achieved via Gold Buying or WoW Tokens.