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    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Linear isn't always bad. If it isn't Linear then players will always find Shortcuts and then become toxic towards players that don't know said shortcuts.

    Take WoW, for example. There's a shortcut in the Blue dragonflight dungeon that results in skipping almost half of it. It requires jumping off and landing in a specific area. No way will players know that this exists unless they look it up or are shown by another player. Course, with the WoW playerbase, that doesn't happen. Players run ahead to the skip then yell and berate the players that don't know about it and are "wasting" their M+ key.
    You completly missed the topic but at least you got your hourly "dae wow bad?" quota. Not only is what you described not an optional path and more akin to a exploit, in addition to that M+ is a speedrun mode, dont go into a speedrun mode if you want to sniff at every flower on the way. People will use anything, intended or not, as long as it isnt banworthy to finish those faster.

    2021 Joindate, bad take - must be a WoWfugee.
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    Tanis_Ebonhart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    You completly missed the topic but at least you got your hourly "dae wow bad?" quota. Not only is what you described not an optional path and more akin to a exploit, in addition to that M+ is a speedrun mode, dont go into a speedrun mode if you want to sniff at every flower on the way. People will use anything, intended or not, as long as it isnt banworthy to finish those faster.

    2021 Joindate, bad take - must be a WoWfugee.
    Sorry, honey bun. I played FF14 on PS3 first. This is my Steam related account. Not that it matters, my point still stand and your lil personal attacks show just how threatened you are by the truth.
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    My PS3 account was shared and was made when FF14 was released on the PS3. My steam account is all mine.

    You don't have to buy it. I don't need you to buy anything, as your opinion means nothing before the facts.

    I only see a few certain individual laugh at others and they're known for their bad takes and hyperventilating whenever someone doesn't hate FF14 as much as them.
    Arent you literally the one hating on WoW and Diablo because "blizzard bad" while FFXIV does the same but then it's okay ? Looks like an L take to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Arent you literally the one hating on WoW and Diablo because "blizzard bad" while FFXIV does the same but then it's okay ? Looks like an L take to me
    I have much more experience than you in regards to gacha mechanics and how Blizzard works. I would suggest stepping aside as you're just too far out of your depth that even the most obvious tactics being utilized by Blizzard is something you cannot comprehend.

    Nothing in FF14's shop is as insidious as the WoW Token. Nothing.
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Not my fault that you get it all twisted whenever you hear about FF14's only real competitor.

    You're cute when you think the FF14 shop is anywhere near as bad as the D4 launch at launch.
    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Do i like linear Dungeons ? No, but i dont believe SE is cabable of creating a suitable reward structure for any PVE content... PVP for some reason it works partially (PVP Pass).
    Even on the exploration side of content they are failling dispite getting it almost right with Bozja. As if they had all the data and came to the wrong conclusion... looks like a
    pattern (Job-theme, side quest, relict weapons...etc.).
    So yes let me have the ride on the one-direction-kiddy-train with a whack-a-mole in between, it's better then wiping and getting nothing besides "the good time".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDecay View Post
    It looks increasingly clear, with the release of FF16 and the current design trend of FF14, that CBU3 is only capable of creating linear corridors.

    Maybe they need to hire some interns from Bethesda.
    Let the irrelevant troll threads commence with FFXVI's release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Let the irrelevant troll threads commence with FFXVI's release.
    Its already getting review bombed on metacritic. And I mean both the 10/10s and the 0/10s. I seriously hate the internet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Its already getting review bombed on metacritic. And I mean both the 10/10s and the 0/10s. I seriously hate the internet
    Same I find it sad there everything has to be so one side or the other there is no reasoning or ability to comprehend things don’t always fit that way. Anyone saying 16 is too linear clearly hasn’t played other FFs. 10 was linear maps as well with only one big map towards the end, it’s more the illusion of it being grander which I think 16 achieves for what I’ve played. 13 made everything feel claustrophobic even though it’s about as linear as 10. End of the day people are never happy you could literally give them concrete evidence of them being just as linear as each other yet people won’t believe you cause it doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The only thing I will agree on is the lack of secrets or hidden areas like on say the pixel era. Granted that could change but for now I agree. End of the day they made the game they wanted to make and I’ve enjoyed it a lot. Can’t wait to keep playing it in all honesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Its already getting review bombed on metacritic. And I mean both the 10/10s and the 0/10s. I seriously hate the internet
    I try to see 0/10s as "I don't like it" and 10/10s as "I like it", you'll stay saner that way.

    On topic, FFXVI is extremely linear. Exploration is pointless, so you're better off simply going for the main quest, or side quest, or hunt. And..that's it. I think I said it before, but it's XIII with better writing and combat. I'm personally enjoying it for the most part, but it very much shows CBU3's weaknesses as well as their strengths. Hell, they locked an mmo feature behind a side quest marked with a '+' lol.
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