Certain players of FFXIV need to knock it off with the gil prices.

[Kaliesto]

The new orchestrations mainly to do with the new trial being on sale for well over 5-20mil.

Seriously? We really reached this far into this gil lunacy?

Its not even that worth it.

I've put up with this crap as gil in general steadily raised in anything to do with the market board for the past some years, but this needs to stop.

Next thing you'll know people will try to push this crap to 50 mill or 100mil one day in the far future for lets say a stupid mount, you know it, I know it, and they know it because they can't have enough gil.

[Darkobra]

Happens every MMO ever. Supply and demand. As long as people are willing to pay this, the price will stay the same. When the market starts to flood, the prices drop and stabilise.

Give it four months. Wait and see.

[LittleImp]

I have made my fortune selling certain MB friendly mounts on day 1/2 of their release, for prices upwards of 80mil a piece. I've seen one sell for 140 mil. A few weeks later, they sell for like 15 mil lol.

The peace of mind knowing I have the cash to kit myself out with raid gear and consumables forliteral years to come is awesome.

Just give it a few weeks, you'll be able to pick that scroll up for pennies once more people have it on farm.

[Bacent]

People need to realize this is what happens when brand new items come out and that if they want them for a better price that they need to wait.

You don't have to buy it. You're just complaining about the price because you want it and don't want to pay the bloated week one prices for it.

Just wait, dude.

[Kaliesto]

People need to realize this is what happens when brand new items come out and that if they want them for a better price that they need to wait.

You don't have to buy it. You're just complaining about the price because you want it and don't want to pay the bloated week one prices for it.

Just wait, dude.

No I'm complaining about the eventual normalization of higher prices that keep going higher as the years goes on, its already affected older mounts & certain minions that had their prices adjusted.

Do that to orchestration rolls then its going to be at that range for the rest of this game's life.

[ElysiumDragon]

The Faded copies will drop through the floor in price once people start properly farming the Extreme for mounts. Then you can just buy the Faded copy and craft the rolls yourself.

Week 1 prices for items are always ludicrously overinflated, it's always been like this because there's an initial lack of supply.

However, I won't begrudge that some Orchestrion Rolls (especially those from the 8-person raids) have no business being as expensive as they are. The likes of Return to Oblivion (which was recently memed on in an in-game questline for being overpriced) and Twice Stricken should both be significantly cheaper than they currently are, even if not rock-bottom.

[Sindele]

No I'm complaining about the eventual normalization of higher prices that keep going higher as the years goes on, its already affected older mounts & certain minions that had their prices adjusted.

Do that to orchestration rolls then its going to be at that range for the rest of this game's life.

Gil inflation is a real phenomenon and if your money-making methods can't keep up with it, then you're not gonna be affording much in the future, either.

Like the minimum wage, the price for a given amount of work has gone up. Them's the breaks. Adapt or perish.

The Faded copies will drop through the floor in price once people start properly farming the Extreme for mounts. Then you can just buy the Faded copy and craft the rolls yourself.

Week 1 prices for items are always ludicrously overinflated, it's always been like this because there's an initial lack of supply.

However, I won't begrudge that some Orchestrion Rolls (especially those from the 8-person raids) have no business being as expensive as they are. The likes of Return to Oblivion (which was recently memed on in an in-game questline for being overpriced) and Twice Stricken should both be significantly cheaper than they currently are, even if not rock-bottom.

Return to Oblivion is expensive because the drop rate isn't good, it's utterly inconvenient to target farm, and lots of people want it after hearing it. It will never be cheaper until one of those changes, and that's unlikely to happen any time soon because it's also not a solo-friendly fight for future unsync farming.

[Jojoya]

No I'm complaining about the eventual normalization of higher prices that keep going higher as the years goes on, its already affected older mounts & certain minions that had their prices adjusted.

Had to leave before I could reply to this earlier in my other post.

Prices keep getting higher because there's more and more gil entering the game economy while SE is doing a poor job of removing most of it through gil sinks and limiting just how much gil one player can have.

When the largest single purchase in the game is 50 million gil, it makes little sense to have the gil cap at 999,999,999. That's several hundred million gil that the player has no use for other than to buy items from other players at the same time the player continues to earn more. Those other players are now boosted toward having 999,999,999 themselves.

It doesn't help that SE effectively encourages players to purchase multiple houses to run sub farms to get Salvaged Accessories/Extravagant Salvaged Accessories by not being stricter with the per account house limits. I could invest 10 million gil into buying a FC house, purchasing the workshop and some materials to build sub parts and in 6 months have made that 10 million back with a weekly profit of 1.5-2million gil easily rolling in (more on weeks with good RNG).

If you want to see prices go down, SE needs to make some changes to how new gil is generated and what players can do with their excess wealth to remove it from the game economy.

Personally, I would:

• Lower gil cap to 100 million per character (including what is stored on retainers), which would eventually lower prices on the market board and make a new player's small amount of gil more valuable.
  
• Reduce value of Salvaged Accessories/Extravagant Salvaged Accessories to 95% of current value if not remove them from the game entirely to reduce interest in setting up sub farms (though I know some would still remain).
  
• Create a Wealth Leaderboard

Why a Wealth Leaderboard? Being a MMORPG, there are players who like to compete against each other to see who can make the most gil or even just see how much they can earn to satisfy personal curiosity.

How would it work? Characters would be able to buy Eorzean Bank Notes (or some similar title/concept) for 5 million gil each. These act as a gil sink to remove the gil permanently from the game economy. They would be made available one patch cycle prior to the gil cap being reduced so players would have a reasonable opportunity to convert their excess gil to the Bank Notes.

The value of Bank Notes acquired by the character would be tracked in the Currency window and on the Leaderboards (can be adapted from the Skybuilder point rankings during Ishgard Restoration). They could potentially be traded between characters during the patch they were purchased (allowing players to accumulate all Bank Notes on a single character with the help of a friend) but could not be sold or used to make purchases on the market board. Bank Notes traded to other players would reduce the character's total for that patch while increasing the other players' totals.

The Leaderboard could track standings in a variety of ways - by world, logical data center, region, world-wide, and by patch earnings, expansion earnings, and all time. Characters on banned accounts would be removed from the rankings.

For fun and immersion, wealthy NPCs like Lolorito could be inserted into the standings with achievements earned by characters ranking above the NPCs.

It's just a rough idea and I don't know how it would play out in practice. But if players are feeling like prices are getting out of control on the market board, and especially if new players feel like they're at too much of a disadvantage in getting things that would help them as they level, then something needs to be done by SE.

[Stormpeaks]

A new item came out and is expensive

More news at 11

[Syln]

I mean, why wouldn't i take advantage of peoples that can't control themselves and buy compulsively the brand new things at an absurd pricing ? That's there problems not mine